Higher speeds and lower latency promised

I don't buy into the lower latency, that's dependant on telkom's network.
 
The_Librarian said:
but if you take 2 lines from neotel, 2 lines from IS and 2 lines from Telkom/SAIX, then you should be covered?
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In redundancy sure, latency no. Bonding increases throughput, not a packets round trip.
 
Redundancy Yes, Fails posible

Hi All,

I have been a Tech Concepts client for around 1 year now. The service works good. The speed is good, redundancy between lines is good. I only have one problem.

At least once a month they have some problem in the data center that causes at least 1 hour of down time. Everytime this occurs i phone them, then they try to convince me it is my own equipment (this is never the case). then they realize/confirm the problem is on their side, and someone is on their way to data center.

Just my thoughts.
 
Of course if we could just get a proper single 20mbps ADSL line from Telkom in the first place then we wouldn't need any of this channel bonding nonsense and all of these channel bonding companies would be out of business in a flash. Channel bonding is just a temporary panacea for the wider problem of lack of backhaul capacity on Telkoms network which prevents them from provisioning speeds above 4mbps at a decent price.
 
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deweyzeph said:
Of course if we could just get a proper single 20mbps ADSL line from Telkom in the first place then we wouldn't need any of this channel bonding nonsense and all of these channel bonding companies would be out of business in a flash. Channel bonding is just a temporary panacea for the wider problem of lack of backhaul capacity on Telkoms network which prevents them from provisioning speeds above 4mbps at a decent price.
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You have hit the nail on the head there. The lack of backhaul and seriously aging infrastructure is the problem, channel bonding just compounds the problem.
 
I don't understand, if channel bonding actually works and gives greater bandwidth, then the backhaul is there and available...

Personally, I'd buy a 20mpbs connection from Telkom at 5 x the current ADSL rate if they throw in G992.5 Annex M and let me have 2 or 3 mbps uplink bandwidth.

The problem with the above is that it *WILL* result in leased line substitution. This then supports my contention that the local backhaul is not the problem per say, but in fact Telkom protecting high margin revenue.

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deweyzeph said:
Of course if we could just get a proper single 20mbps ADSL line from Telkom in the first place then we wouldn't need any of this channel bonding nonsense and all of these channel bonding companies would be out of business in a flash.
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Well, with our long avg local loop lengths, sometimes accompanied by poor quality copper & shoddy joins, line bonding may be the only way for many to get a 10-20Mbps type service.

Hopefully by next year it should be possible for independant ISPs to provide solutions based on real ADSL bonding instead of the in-effecient tunnel bonding used in the current crop of offerings.
 
We had the bonded line offering from TC from February through October last year...when it worked it was good but doesn't provide the fantastically awesome speed one would expect (especially considering it to be a '20mbps' connection), I downloaded files faster over my 4mbps ADSL line at home using a regular 3GB saix account (and substantially faster at that and way more often than the bonded line ever downloaded fast). The lines went down often and the service was unstable with an uptime of 50/50 with our site often been made out to be the problem whereas I never have/had these issues with our IS uncapped router.

In 1 scenario, I setup routing and remote access on a 2003 server for VPN functionality, with a static IP with our IS ADSL line, worked 1st time every time with many clients, connected 8 laptops (all that I had in the server room with me at the time with 3G cards). Replace the IS connection with the TC bonded - I could get the first VPN connection (but not 100% or anywhere near there either) but getting anything more than that was virtually impossible sometimes taking 20 attempts to get a connection - maybe. I was told to setup multiple static public IPs to the server and this didn't make 1 difference to anything.

And how is this for stupid too...their equipment was delivered without a power cable, without details about what our static IPs were or what DNS servers to use or what (I know I refer to IS a lot but in my experience they have really good service - when you get an uncapped ADSL with IS they preconfigure the router, print out the range of IPs allocated to you, what DNS servers to use and the name and direct line number of the person who setup the router in case there any issues). The guy delivering the equipment wasn't of much help either and when phoning the TC office no one even seemed to know that they were offering public IPs with the bonded line. To top it all off, it only has 1 ethernet connection, so you get 5 public IPs but you have 1 ethernet interface? So you must now plug this into a switch and then distribute from their to the various servers you want to connect via public IP - connecting to the switch was considered a problem by TC many a time too. Slightly unrelated but still a reflection on TC's service was that their DNS servers were slow especially with dynamically updated IPs, one could often wait hours before their DNS servers updated whereas on the other side with the IS ADSL it was done more often than not within minutes.

One positive thing to say is that you could punish the line by doing multiple downloads/uploads etc but you could get a relatively consistent latency through out.

I don't post this to say that it is a bad idea but these were my experiences with TC's bonded line offering when we used it last year - I was very hopeful of the technology and just want others to know the facts and go in to something like this with their eyes open.

Oh...and 1 last thing, the bandwidth on the bonded line was hellishly expensive (over R5k for 40GB!!!!)
 
so 384k wireless unshapped uncapped for R1800 ain't so bad
 
Where can I get more info on Altech TC pricing

Hello guys, its my 1st time on the forum.

Can someone please assist me on how I can get more info/contact info for the ADSL channel bonding solution? Is it up & running already?

Regards

Marius
 
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