AlmightyBender
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You forgot revolutionary and communist! But thanks I feel seen and heardAnd there emerges the crazy, leftist, social justice warrior.
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You forgot revolutionary and communist! But thanks I feel seen and heardAnd there emerges the crazy, leftist, social justice warrior.
ah so we're in "ok so you are" territory now?Ok so you are 100% ok with casting Michelle Mosalakae (pictured below) as Snow White
that's some poetic license there, a half-Columbian / latino is not "tanned" fyinot a tanned white actress?
que?!? you seem a bit unhinged thereIf a media company in any country with a not white population wants to make a show about Snow White do they need to import a pale skinned actress? Is that the expectation? How exactly does this work in your mind globally?
Do you not see how weird you are being?
Do you not see how little this matters?
Why do you not apply these same standards universally?
nor do you or hollywood, the brothers grimm wrote: "so weiß wie Schnee"You don't own or control stories.
Funny, the new movie disregarded that completely. They said it was her being a nice person that made her fair. Not her looks because that would have been objectification of woman.Ok so you are 100% ok with casting Michelle Mosalakae (pictured below) as Snow White but not a tanned white actress?
If a media company in any country with a not white population wants to make a show about Snow White do they need to import a pale skinned actress? Is that the expectation? How exactly does this work in your mind globally?
Do you not see how weird you are being?
Do you not see how little this matters?
Why do you not apply these same standards universally?
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The point of Snow White was her beauty. Same as Helen of Troy. If you insist on linking white skin with the concept of beauty you are just blatantly racist. Which you are. Just because the original author had racist/classist/misogynistic beliefs originally does not require us to preserve those beliefs in the present to share in the stories created. You don't own or control stories.
Once upon a time in midwinter, when the snowflakes were falling like feathers from heaven, a queen sat sewing at her window, which had a frame of black ebony wood. As she sewed she looked up at the snow and pricked her finger with her needle. Three drops of blood fell into the snow. The red on the white looked so beautiful that she thought to herself, "If only I had a child as white as snow, as red as blood, and as black as the wood in this frame."
Snow-White grew up and became ever more beautiful. When she was seven years old she was as beautiful as the light of day, even more beautiful than the queen herself.
The queen took fright and turned yellow and green with envy. From that hour on whenever she looked at Snow-White her heart turned over inside her body, so great was her hatred for the girl. The envy and pride grew ever greater, like a weed in her heart, until she had no peace day and night.
Inside the house everything was small, but so neat and clean that no one could say otherwise. There was a little table with a white tablecloth and seven little plates, and each plate had a spoon, and there were seven knives and forks and seven mugs as well. Against the wall there were seven little beds, all standing in a row and covered with snow-white sheets.
Then she went into her most secret room -- no one else was allowed inside -- and she made a poisoned, poisoned apple. From the outside it was beautiful, white with red cheeks, and anyone who saw it would want it. But anyone who might eat a little piece of it would died. Then, coloring her face, she disguised herself as a peasant woman, and thus went across the seven mountains to the seven dwarfs. She knocked on the door.
"Are you afraid of poison?" asked the old woman. "Look, I'll cut the apple in two. You eat the red half, and I shall eat the white half."
Now the apple had been so artfully made that only the red half was poisoned. Snow-White longed for the beautiful apple, and when she saw that the peasant woman was eating part of it she could no longer resist, and she stuck her hand out and took the poisoned half. She barely had a bite in her mouth when she fell to the ground dead.
They said, "We cannot bury her in the black earth," and they had a transparent glass coffin made, so she could be seen from all sides. They laid her inside, and with golden letters wrote on it her name, and that she was a princess. Then they put the coffin outside on a mountain, and one of them always stayed with it and watched over her. The animals too came and mourned for Snow-white, first an owl, then a raven, and finally a dove.
Snow-White lay there in the coffin a long, long time, and she did not decay, but looked like she was asleep, for she was still as white as snow and as red as blood, and as black-haired as ebony wood.
I don't agree. Not only does she need to be white, but she needs these traits (as per description):Ok so you are 100% ok with casting Michelle Mosalakae (pictured below) as Snow White but not a tanned white actress?
If a media company in any country with a not white population wants to make a show about Snow White do they need to import a pale skinned actress? Is that the expectation? How exactly does this work in your mind globally?
Do you not see how weird you are being?
Do you not see how little this matters?
Why do you not apply these same standards universally?
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The point of Snow White was her beauty. Same as Helen of Troy. If you insist on linking white skin with the concept of beauty you are just blatantly racist. Which you are. Just because the original author had racist/classist/misogynistic beliefs originally does not require us to preserve those beliefs in the present to share in the stories created. You don't own or control stories.
So you are outraged by, just wait while I consult reality...., um... every single casting to date cause not a single one of them meets your criteria? Do you truly not realize the real world impracticality of what you are saying?I don't agree. Not only does she need to be white, but she needs these traits (as per description):
- Skin: As white as snow
Lips & Cheeks: As red as blood (or a rose)
Hair: Short, dark, or black as ebony wood

Funny, the new movie disregarded that completely. They said it was her being a nice person that made her fair. Not her looks because that would have been objectification of woman.
If you go and get the actual story:
https://sites.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm053.html
Colour metaphors are very much a part of the story. It isn't exclusive to white
Even the apple has it.
Character is literally described as white as snow, with black hair and red cheeks/lips.
Racism is just such a simplistic and retarded way of looking at it.
At a minimum they need to be someone who needs to carry SPF 50 when visiting South Africa.So you are outraged by, just wait while I consult reality...., um... every single casting to date cause not a single one of them meets your criteria? Do you truly not realize the real world impracticality of what you are saying?
Which casting was acceptable so far in your opinion? Please be specific.
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In an interview with Variety, Zegler made several remarks about the Snow White remake plot alterations and her personal feelings toward the original story. She noted that “it’s no longer 1937” and Snow White is “not going to be saved by the prince, and she’s not going to be dreaming about true love; she’s going to be dreaming about becoming the leader she knows she can be and that her late father told her that she could be if she was fearless, fair, brave, and true.” Some were off-put by Zegler’s statements, arguing that women can be fearless while also being in love and taking alternative paths from solely being a leader. As Zegler continued the interview, she mentioned that Prince Charming could be cut from the movie as she believed he was “a guy who literally stalks her” with a “weird” storyline. Zegler also noted that she had only watched the original movie once before attaining the part of Snow White, and she found the movie scary, causing further uproar from those who claim she did not respect the story and was not grateful for receiving the beloved role
Then he said to the dwarfs, "Let me have the coffin. I will give you anything you want for it."
But the dwarfs answered, "We will not sell it for all the gold in the world."
Then he said, "Then give it to me, for I cannot live without being able to see Snow-White. I will honor her and respect her as my most cherished one."
As he thus spoke, the good dwarfs felt pity for him and gave him the coffin. The prince had his servants carry it away on their shoulders. But then it happened that one of them stumbled on some brush, and this dislodged from Snow-White's throat the piece of poisoned apple that she had bitten off. Not long afterward she opened her eyes, lifted the lid from her coffin, sat up, and was alive again.
"Good heavens, where am I?" she cried out.
The prince said joyfully, "You are with me." He told her what had happened, and then said, "I love you more than anything else in the world. Come with me to my father's castle. You shall become my wife." Snow-White loved him, and she went with him. Their wedding was planned with great splendor and majesty.
"Outraged" is a bit strong. I simply don't agree with you. I find it interesting that you assume the Brothers Grimm's racism and bigotry. This is highly unlikely and quite the leap you're making, especially since there wasn't people like you around to scream racism at every opportunity.So you are outraged by, just wait while I consult reality...., um... every single casting to date cause not a single one of them meets your criteria? Do you truly not realize the real world impracticality of what you are saying?
Which casting was acceptable so far in your opinion? Please be specific.
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