Home Automation - Smartkit

[mtlost]

Currently, with Efergy engage - I want to replace it with an Arduino setup, I've bought everything needed, just don't find the time. (not a fan of cloud based services)

Do you also have the issue where the hub just disconnects from their services? I have to ask efergy 5 or so times a year to reset my hub. It disconnects from my account and no matter how many times I try to connect it, it fails. It use to be resolved quickly but sometime since last year it takes days een weeks to be resolved.

Bloody frustrating.

 

[xrapidx]

Do you also have the issue where the hub just disconnects from their services? I have to ask efergy 5 or so times a year to reset my hub. It disconnects from my account and no matter how many times I try to connect it, it fails. It use to be resolved quickly but sometime since last year it takes days een weeks to be resolved.

Bloody frustrating.

Had it once via their website - but haven't had it from the HA side. (I hardy log on to the Efergy site)

 

[mtlost]

Had it once via their website - but haven't had it from the HA side. (I hardy log on to the Efergy site)

My hub fails to link to their services, so my HA setup just displays NaN.....aka no data available. They have to reset my connection to their services before my API in HA starts working again.

 

[xrapidx]

My hub fails to link to their services, so my HA setup just displays NaN.....aka no data available. They have to reset my connection to their services before my API in HA starts working again.

I've had that after loadshedding sometimes, but unplugging the transmitter, and restarting HA always resolved it. (lately - just unplugging the transmitter for a few seconds seems to work)

 

[mtlost]

I've had that after loadshedding sometimes, but unplugging the transmitter, and restarting HA always resolved it. (lately - just unplugging the transmitter for a few seconds seems to work)

This is a hub to efergy issue, hub gets rebooted (smart-plug) every 6 hours, will maybe try rebooting the transmitter, but the hub is not detected on their platform, so the transmitter will do nothing without the hub

 

[yogidabear]

Your shipment could be seized and impounded.

Additionally your house can't get a CoC without ICASA/LOA - and your insurance claim might be refuted.

So you have LOA's for the Sonoff products? We asked Communica for their LOA's and never got a response so assume they dont have and if you do that would mean your one of the only legal suppliers.

 

[xrapidx]

So you have LOA's for the Sonoff products? We asked Communica for their LOA's and never got a response so assume they dont have and if you do that would mean your one of the only legal suppliers.

Communica just have crappy service in general.

 

[Sparkz0629]

Pulsetime itself doesn’t affect the relay turning on in any way.

The default is just that the relay turns on...which makes for interesting times when you hooked up your garage door to Tasmota and then get load shedding.

Power power state is controlled with...

PowerOnState Control relay state after powering up the device.
0 / OFF = keep relay(s) OFF after power up
1 / ON = turn relay(s) ON after power up
2 / TOGGLE = toggle relay(s) from last saved state
3 = switch relay(s) to their last saved state (default)
4 = turn relay(s) ON and disable further relay control
5 = after a PulseTime period turn relay(s) ON (acts as inverted PulseTime

GitHub - arendst/Tasmota: Alternative firmware for ESP8266 and ESP32 based devices with easy configuration using webUI, OTA updates, automation using timers or rules, expandability and entirely local control over MQTT, HTTP, Serial or KNX. Full docum

Alternative firmware for ESP8266 and ESP32 based devices with easy configuration using webUI, OTA updates, automation using timers or rules, expandability and entirely local control over MQTT, HTTP...

github.com

Agreed it doesn't affect the relays turning on. but but it would prevent the relay (And therefore the buzzer) from staying on until manually being toggled off.

My relay (With tasmota) doesn't turn on automatically, always remains off (I have on on my gate so know that for sure, but also tested it independently.).
Thats why i would set it to "1" so that it definitely comes on when receiving power, buzzer rings, Pulse switches it off.

 

[Rocket-Boy]

Agreed it doesn't affect the relays turning on. but but it would prevent the relay (And therefore the buzzer) from staying on until manually being toggled off.

My relay (With tasmota) doesn't turn on automatically, always remains off (I have on on my gate so know that for sure, but also tested it independently.).
Thats why i would set it to "1" so that it definitely comes on when receiving power, buzzer rings, Pulse switches it off.

Every relay I have seen has both normally open(NO) and normally closed(NC) connections, so it just depends on how you set it.
You can also set it to turn on and off again after x delay in Tasmota, its a lot easier than when I used to code that in the Arduino IDE.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Agreed it doesn't affect the relays turning on. but but it would prevent the relay (And therefore the buzzer) from staying on until manually being toggled off.

My relay (With tasmota) doesn't turn on automatically, always remains off (I have on on my gate so know that for sure, but also tested it independently.).
Thats why i would set it to "1" so that it definitely comes on when receiving power, buzzer rings, Pulse switches it off.

Either we are crossing channels here or you have some confusion on your end.

Pulsetime has nothing to do with the power on state of the relay, that is independently controlled by the PowerOnState as I referenced above.

What PulseTime does do however is set the Relay to go ON and then OFF again after X number 0.1 second increments depending on the value provided.

Basically it changes the relay from being permanently on to being only temporary on for X amount of time.

By default Tasmota will still trigger the the relay under a power loss event unless the PowerOnState is changed, which is bad for anything like a garage/gate or other security centered installation.

Likely you changed the Poweronstate at some point and forgot about it, which is why your stays off now.

*****

Actually I see the default is now to be last saved state, which would then be OFF if Pulsetime was used, so quite likely they've changed this at some point.

3 = switch relay(s) to their last saved state (default)

Still I would highly recommend rather forcing it to a default of OFF (0 / OFF = keep relay(s) OFF after power up) just to be absolutely safe.

Last thing you want is your garage/gate/alarm opening at random with load shedding.

 

[Sparkz0629]

Either we are crossing channels here or you have some confusion on your end.

Pulsetime has nothing to do with the power on state of the relay, that is independently controlled by the PowerOnState as I referenced above.

What PulseTime does do however is set the Relay to go ON and then OFF again after X number 0.1 second increments depending on the value provided.

Basically it changes the relay from being permanently on to being only temporary on for X amount of time.

By default Tasmota will still trigger the the relay under a power loss event unless the PowerOnState is changed, which is bad for anything like a garage/gate or other security centered installation.

Likely you changed the Poweronstate at some point and forgot about it, which is why your stays off now.

*****

Actually I see the default is now to be last saved state, which would then be OFF if Pulsetime was used, so quite likely they've changed this at some point.

3 = switch relay(s) to their last saved state (default)

Still I would highly recommend rather forcing it to a default of OFF (0 / OFF = keep relay(s) OFF after power up) just to be absolutely safe.

Last thing you want is your garage/gate/alarm opening at random with load shedding.

I would just like to quote the use case from the initial request: Link

Idea: use the sonoff basic with a buzzer to alert (for a short period, like 3-5 seconds) when the electricity comes back. The sonoff would be wired directly to the incoming 220V line to the house from the outside electricity meter, in the db.

Nothing to do with connecting to gate, garage etc. Purely a buzzer to go off when power returns after a power failure.

Hence, my solution should work perfectly ok.

 

[Sparkz0629]

Every relay I have seen has both normally open(NO) and normally closed(NC) connections, so it just depends on how you set it.
You can also set it to turn on and off again after x delay in Tasmota, its a lot easier than when I used to code that in the Arduino IDE.

Im talking about using any smart switch. So its power on or off.
Also, that "turn off after x delay" you mention is the PulseTime i was talking about.

 

[SauRoNZA]

I would just like to quote the use case from the initial request: Link


Nothing to do with connecting to gate, garage etc. Purely a buzzer to go off when power returns after a power failure.

Hence, my solution should work perfectly ok.

Yeah as I added to my post above it seems at some point they changed the PoweronState to default to "last saved state" instead of just being ON.

My objection to your original post was that PulseTime in and of itself doesn't change the PowerOnState as your post suggested, but ultimately with the above default having been changed the end result is much the same so the result is fit for purpose.

Just didn't want people getting some surprises on their first load shedding.

However for his use case of wanting the relay to go on after the power comes back on he would actually need to change the PowerOnState to 1 so that it always triggers the relay when the power comes back on, then the PulseTime should switch it off again after set period of time.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Every relay I have seen has both normally open(NO) and normally closed(NC) connections, so it just depends on how you set it.
You can also set it to turn on and off again after x delay in Tasmota, its a lot easier than when I used to code that in the Arduino IDE.

Nothing like that with the Sonoff, there is are only one set of connections and everything else is software controlled with Tasmota (or Ewelink).

PulseTime = X time delay.

 

[blueowl]

OK - feedback time - I have used the following commands in tasmota Console:

Poweronstate 1
pulsetime 30

All works as it should - upon power returning (manually tested, unplug/replug), the sonoff unit output comes on, stays on for 3 seconds, then switches off. Exactly what I needed - thank you @Sparkz0629 and @SauRoNZA for your help.

 

[wonduhboy]

Looking for some help here:
Bought a Sonoff dual to control my garden lights and water feature pump.
Connected everything up - lights only have L and N, but the pump has earth as well. As does the extension lead, which is the source.
Now the lights work fine, but not the pump.
What do I do with the earth?

 

[Mista_Mobsta]

Looking for some help here:
Bought a Sonoff dual to control my garden lights and water feature pump.
Connected everything up - lights only have L and N, but the pump has earth as well. As does the extension lead, which is the source.
Now the lights work fine, but not the pump.
What do I do with the earth?

Connect the L and N for both the lights and the pump on the relevant outputs on the Dual. Bridge the Earth wire, using crimping tools, electrical wire connectors and a cap with insulation tape (maybe install everything in waterproof container) from the lead to the pump.

 

[hellfire]

Looking for some help here:
Bought a Sonoff dual to control my garden lights and water feature pump.
Connected everything up - lights only have L and N, but the pump has earth as well. As does the extension lead, which is the source.
Now the lights work fine, but not the pump.
What do I do with the earth?

connect it but not through the Dual

 

[wonduhboy]

Connect the L and N for both the lights and the pump on the relevant outputs on the Dual. Bridge the Earth wire, using crimping tools, electrical wire connectors and a cap with insulation tape (maybe install everything in waterproof container) from the lead to the pump.

So, in other words, connect the pump earth to the extension lead earth, outside the dual?
It's all in a waterproof housing already

 

[Mista_Mobsta]

So, in other words, connect the pump earth to the extension lead earth, outside the dual?
It's all in a waterproof housing already

Yes - as long as the extension L and N input and output go to the pump (via the Sonoff) and you have separate wires on the output from the Sonoff L and N to the lights, then you can bridge the earth outside the Sonoff.

So essentially, use the extension cable input and output (L and N) to power the pump, bridge the Earth (in-line cable connector is easy to use but check the gauge) and run separate cables from the Sonoff L and N to the lights.