"Home Uncapped" accounts: What do you consider excessive usage?

^^^ Of course they have to remain profitable.. who the fek would run a business at a loss when they could make a profit?

Telkom and the cost it attaches to IPC is pretty much the biggest money sink for an ISP.
 
Well, looking at my connection over the past year, I've only used more than 70GB once, and unfortunately had to upgrade my mweb account to premium because of that single month. For general purposes though I'd say that 100GB is reasonable.
 
TEXTILE GUY said:
I think to answer the question IMHO .....

If you pay for UNCAPPED the the data qantum should be exactly that - UNCAPPED.

When Rudi Jansen started the whole free the web thing, his payoff line was ''all you can eat internet'', but, its obvious that ISPs are putting us on diet with shaping, throttling and the like - citing Telkom as the problem, while in fact the ISPs trying to remain profitable.

Maybe better to sell UNCAPPED SHAPED MANAGED accounts ... because then we are told upfront, you can connect at any time, but at times the connectuion is worthless ... but thank you for paying ....
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TEXTILE GUY said:
Absolutely .... and herein lies the problem ......
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I follow not, you claim that the ISPs are talking shyte, pretty much, when they claim Telkom are the reason they have to shape and throttle etc to keep even the vaguest of margins on their products...
Then you completely agree with me that Telkom are the problem with the IPC costs....

:confused:
 
ToxicBunny said:
^^^ Of course they have to remain profitable.. who the fek would run a business at a loss when they could make a profit?

Telkom and the cost it attaches to IPC is pretty much the biggest money sink for an ISP.
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Hopefully that gets addressed somewhat with the advent of Bitstream. Hopefully this will bring more players into the last mile and the creation of more "independent" POPs that will divert traffic from Telkom's network, thus negating their total reliance on IPC.
 
ToxicBunny said:
I follow not, you claim that the ISPs are talking shyte, pretty much, when they claim Telkom are the reason they have to shape and throttle etc to keep even the vaguest of margins on their products...
Then you completely agree with me that Telkom are the problem with the IPC costs....

:confused:
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Waal I see it like this .... ISPs... they exist to make profit sure ... thats the aim of business. They advertise their product, and extrapolate their sales, VC, FC and of course margin. But then, things go wrong - customers demand exceeds supply so to speak .... so they need to add in some sort of throttle system. They have oversold their capacity.
But - because of the high cost of IPC, they cant remedy the problem by buying more capacity .... their costings didnt allow for this.

And as more and more people come online, and more IPC is needed, the ISP needs to weigh up the decision - how do I manage my market. Do I buy more IPC from Telkom and make my existing customers happy while making less or do I knock back on how much everyone consumes and grow my client base .....

That aside - Telkom will always own the last mile of line - and that cost of having an ADSL line at home is a fixed cost. Pretty much, the cost of that portion of monthly fees could well be calculated in Rands per Gig - the fixed cost amount divided by the Gigs of data consumed - assuming you were not hindered in anyway by the ISP, who exists to make a profit .....

Just my view ... right or wrong ....

Having said all of that I must point out that I am currently very happy with my ISP and the price I pay and point out that I do not have a throttle problem and consume around 350Gigs month in a household of 4 people, with two pretty much online 24/7
 
TEXTILE GUY said:
That aside - Telkom will always own the last mile of line - and that cost of having an ADSL line at home is a fixed cost. Pretty much, the cost of that portion of monthly fees could well be calculated in Rands per Gig - the fixed cost amount divided by the Gigs of data consumed - assuming you were not hindered in anyway by the ISP, who exists to make a profit .....
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And remember that Telkom has been dropping the IPC cost over the last 2 years...
 
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