Roger.Wilco
Senior Member
I want to install a utp cable to my study. Is it a good idea to run utp cable with the power in the same conduit? Do you get faceplates with power and rj45 connections?
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wetkit
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rather go for STP or Shielded Twisted Pair.
Should give you much better performance if running with power.
Might get the power and UTP in a 4x4 faceplate, but not sure.
Should give you much better performance if running with power.
Might get the power and UTP in a 4x4 faceplate, but not sure.
spiderz
Honorary Master
It's normally not recommended to run network cables next to power cables (or fluorescent lights).
If you have to, the STP is a better option than the UTP.
If you have to, the STP is a better option than the UTP.
Roger.Wilco
Senior Member
Yup, also can't find faceplates for it. Any alternatives? Wifi is too slow for copying and streaming.
- "Telkom-style" (glue the cable to the skirting board with a hot glue gun),
- Install rectangular PVC trunking on the wall, or
- Get an electrician to chase into the wall and install a 2x4/4x4 box with 20 or 25mm conduit into the ceiling, then install an RJ45 faceplate and terminate the UTP into that.
spiderz
Honorary Master
http://www.scoopdistribution.co.za/product_info.php?cPath=84_90&products_id=558
Linkbasic Cat5e Solid Shielded Cable 305m R895.00
Remember to use the flexible multi strand cable for your fly-leads.
Linkbasic Cat5e Solid Shielded Cable 305m R895.00
Remember to use the flexible multi strand cable for your fly-leads.
Roger.Wilco
Senior Member
Thanks, but it doesn't look like you get faceplates for rj45 and power.
HavocXphere
Honorary Master
Upgrade gear to N standard.
Roger.Wilco
Senior Member
Already tried, still not good enough for streaming HD movies.
HavocXphere
Honorary Master
Huh?
BluRay said:
n Standard said:
Sure that 600mbit/s is the max, but I find it very difficult to believe that doesn't work. Far more likely that you've got a bad config somewhere or something else is bottlenecking.
Besides, if you pushing BD content over the network then chances are its a rip anyway due to HDCP so the bitrate is probably even lower than 54mbit/s.
Roger.Wilco
Senior Member
The HD movies starts playing fine, but every now and again it stutters. Even if it's just for a second or 2, it's very annoying.
HavocXphere
Honorary Master
Fixing that is probably going to be less of a schlep than pulling cables.
First check for interference on the wifi & maybe switch channel, then boost the buffer on the vid player.
Roger.Wilco
Senior Member
Trust me, this is the last resort for me, I've tried everything I can think of. At the moment my htpc is going to the wifi AP via utp, so it's only going through wifi to my other pc, and it's still giving issues. Even bought stronger antennas as well.
Drunkard #1
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IIRC running data and power in the conduit is illegal. Get another conduit or run the data cable externally.
Crabtree's modular diamond range allows you to get anything installed next to anything. TV, Data, Telephone, 16A power, 5A power, etc. All in the same box, with the same faceplate. They use high quality components, so best you take some Vasaline when you visit your local electrical dealer.
Crabtree's modular diamond range allows you to get anything installed next to anything. TV, Data, Telephone, 16A power, 5A power, etc. All in the same box, with the same faceplate. They use high quality components, so best you take some Vasaline when you visit your local electrical dealer.
HavocXphere
Honorary Master
I bet 10 points that that is not a gigabit link.
Go through it systematically. Work out the bitrate you need from the video. Add a bit of overhead (10-20%) and then check each link & device to see that its can maintain that.
If you're fed up with it though then go for the cables. Lose the combined faceplate idea though....you'll need a gigabit network and those don't like power cables too much, esp over long distances.
Roger.Wilco
Senior Member
I bet 10 points that that is not a gigabit link.
It's not. But that's the weird part, if I run a long cable to my pc in the study (htpc -> 100mb switch -> pc), then it plays perfectly.
HavocXphere
Honorary Master
If it plays fine on 100mb wired but not n wifi then something is definitely wrong with the wifi link. How fast can you transfer files over the wifi link?
Roger.Wilco
Senior Member
No, not really. I've googled this before and it seems a lot of people have the same issue. On different devices as well, standalone media player, Xbox, PS3, pc's. Plays HD stuff fine on wired 100mb, but have issues with wifi. From what I've read on other forums it's the overhead on wifi and interference etc.
MidnightWizard
Executive Member
NO
Have a look at any decent installation or lab that uses proper trunking.
Power AND UTP running in the same metal trunking -- Power connected to a high end UPS -- sockets for ETH as well as power ( red plug ) facing external in trunking ( unless they changed the rules since I last looked )
OP can install fibre if it is just a short run and worried about the "sparklies" ( fibre to UTP converter box )
"Neat" is ALWAYS better.
Have a look at any decent installation or lab that uses proper trunking.
Power AND UTP running in the same metal trunking -- Power connected to a high end UPS -- sockets for ETH as well as power ( red plug ) facing external in trunking ( unless they changed the rules since I last looked )
OP can install fibre if it is just a short run and worried about the "sparklies" ( fibre to UTP converter box )
"Neat" is ALWAYS better.