Homeloan interest rates - fixed or variable?

Chaz Michael

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The recent rise in the repo rate has bumped our Homeloan interest rates but will there be more and would it not be prudent to fix ones homeloan interest rate? the first part of the question for me is yes, but the second part is difficult to decide. I recently received a quote from FNB offering a fixed interest rate of 11% for the next 5 years. I have 18 hours remaining to accept or decline...
 
Its really dumb to fix it! (Except if we see 5 to 10% up). Once you fix it, you lose your flexi! You can simulate a lower just by prepaying your bond

I got a qoute to fix it for 36 months at 6.85%

After reading the t’s and c’s (I laughed).

The power of a flexi (its more useful) than fixing it
 
I recently received a quote from FNB offering a fixed interest rate of 11% for the next 5 years. I have 18 hours remaining to accept or decline...
Holy ****ing Smoke :oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops:

11% ??????????????????????????????????????????

Got this email yesterday from FNB and I quote:
Your loan interest rate has been increased by 0.25% from 6.65% to 6.90% on 28 January 2022. This follows a decision by the South African Reserve Bank to increase the Repo rate by 0.25%.
 
Holy ****ing Smoke :oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops::oops:

11% ??????????????????????????????????????????

Got this email yesterday from FNB and I quote:
Your loan interest rate has been increased by 0.25% from 6.65% to 6.90% on 28 January 2022. This follows a decision by the South African Reserve Bank to increase the Repo rate by 0.25%.

If you fix your bond rate... it aint the repo that got lifted now.
 
11% for home loans, which is a secured debt, is ridiculous, reject that quote and either shop around or wait till your credit record improves a bit.
 
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Alot of factors related to fixing your bond...

Do you prepay?
How old is the bond?
Outstanding amount
What are future predictions (going forward)

Just to name a few
 
(I don't have a house yet)

My focus would be reducing the interest over the long term. Let's say I fix it whatever rate, 11% even, I want to then be able to put in 15% or 20%. But at a fixed rate, does that 15% or 20% make a difference? While with a flexi, even at a stupid rate like 15%, if I put in 20%, won't it still be better than the fixed 11%?

Do I make any sense?
 
Historically fixed has almost never won out for anyone for the very reason they boost the interest rate to start with.

Only ever consider this if you have a cash flow problem, it will just cost you more in the long run.
 
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(I don't have a house yet)

My focus would be reducing the interest over the long term. Let's say I fix it whatever rate, 11% even, I want to then be able to put in 15% or 20%. But at a fixed rate, does that 15% or 20% make a difference? While with a flexi, even at a stupid rate like 15%, if I put in 20%, won't it still be better than the fixed 11%?

Do I make any sense?

I think your confusing the issue saying “putting in” 15% or 20%.

Do you mean +15% of your instalment?

It’s pretty easy to work out. Just take the capital balance remaining and subtract the “prepaid” balance of what you have against home loan to figure out what you are paying in interest.

Alternatively just take the “prepaid” amount and work the interest out against that to see what you are saving.

If you have R100k sitting in your prepaid account at 11% you are “saving” R916 a month.

Which seems like a better deal than if you were on 7% but there just because you are “saving” against a high interest rate.

So let’s break it down. Note I’ve had plenty of Klipdrift this might be a complete **** show when I see it tomorrow.

Capital Balance : R1,000,000

Interest Rate : 7%

Prepaid : R100,000

Interest per month without prepaid : R5833 per month.

Interest with prepaid subtracted : R5250

Saving : R 583 (increasing every month).

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Interest Rate : 11%

Interest per month without prepaid : R9166

Interest per month with prepaid : R8250

Saving : R 916


It seems pretty clear cut that a 4% interest difference is far far worse for you than not saving anything at all.

Even a 1% is going to hurt a hell of a lot over time.

My advice to people starting out is always set your debit order statically above what you are meant to pay and what you can easily afford to do.

Then you never feel the interest rate fluctuations and grow your prepaid balance over time reducing your total interest paid. Increase it whenever you can and pay your house off double quick.
 
OP what is your variable rate.

Without knowing that one can’t really say if the fixed rate is any good.
 
I think your confusing the issue saying “putting in” 15% or 20%.

Do you mean +15% of your instalment?

It’s pretty easy to work out. Just take the capital balance remaining and subtract the “prepaid” balance of what you have against home loan to figure out what you are paying in interest.

Alternatively just take the “prepaid” amount and work the interest out against that to see what you are saving.

If you have R100k sitting in your prepaid account at 11% you are “saving” R916 a month.

Which seems like a better deal than if you were on 7% but there just because you are “saving” against a high interest rate.

So let’s break it down. Note I’ve had plenty of Klipdrift this might be a complete **** show when I see it tomorrow.

Capital Balance : R1,000,000

Interest Rate : 7%

Prepaid : R100,000

Interest per month without prepaid : R5833 per month.

Interest with prepaid subtracted : R5250

Saving : R 583 (increasing every month).

~~~~~~

Interest Rate : 11%

Interest per month without prepaid : R9166

Interest per month with prepaid : R8250

Saving : R 916


It seems pretty clear cut that a 4% interest difference is far far worse for you than not saving anything at all.

Even a 1% is going to hurt a hell of a lot over time.

My advice to people starting out is always set your debit order statically above what you are meant to pay and what you can easily afford to do.

Then you never feel the interest rate fluctuations and grow your prepaid balance over time reducing your total interest paid. Increase it whenever you can and pay your house off double quick.
I don't drink, and I think ill rather read it tomorrow. :)
 
OP what is your variable rate.

Without knowing that one can’t really say if the fixed rate is any good.
I'm currently on a 7.73% interest rate
The Ts & Cs are also rather crazy.. especially if I should ever decide to settle the homeloan early - then the bank come with penalties..
I will educate myself more on the prepaid option you mention - is that an advance monthly payment? Please tell me more?

My concern over all is that we may very well be headed toward a period of hyper-inflation where one could possibly benefit from debt assets.. provided a fixed interest rate is favorable - still figuring it out as I rummage around for my crystal ball..
 
I'm currently on a 7.73% interest rate
The Ts & Cs are also rather crazy.. especially if I should ever decide to settle the homeloan early - then the bank come with penalties..
I will educate myself more on the prepaid option you mention - is that an advance monthly payment? Please tell me more?

My concern over all is that we may very well be headed toward a period of hyper-inflation where one could possibly benefit from debt assets.. provided a fixed interest rate is favorable - still figuring it out as I rummage around for my crystal ball..
You can settle a home loan early, you just need to give 90 days notice. BUT, most folks NEVER fully settle a home loan, keep its balance at something like R5. Best access vehicle for credit.
 
I'm currently on a 7.73% interest rate
The Ts & Cs are also rather crazy.. especially if I should ever decide to settle the homeloan early - then the bank come with penalties..
I will educate myself more on the prepaid option you mention - is that an advance monthly payment? Please tell me more?

My concern over all is that we may very well be headed toward a period of hyper-inflation where one could possibly benefit from debt assets.. provided a fixed interest rate is favorable - still figuring it out as I rummage around for my crystal ball..

Yea it’s a just a flexi/access bond. Any money you pay extra into your home loan that offsets the interest and you can draw out at any time.

Penalties would only apply if you didn’t make it known you are closing it 60 days up front. They aren’t even that heavy if you don’t.

Easily avoided with time and forward planning. Applies to anyone selling a house as well.
 
Second rate hike now, I'm getting blasted on my repayments
 
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