How cheap is South Africa's electricity prices?

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You can't compare to Zim because they hardly have electricity so its only fair to not charge for something you don't provide. That's like saying Bob was the most re-elected president in the history of presidential elections.
 
At this stage, it is clear that the CEO of Eskom is completely disconnected from the real world. Does he not understand we do not earn an income like his own? Does he not understand that we do not live in the first world? Can he not comprehend how weak our currency is?
 
Should be one of the cheapest, as we have lots of coal and labour.

But we dont earn Euros or Dollars.

If you read the article they do purchasing power parity calculations.

The PPP calculation is absurd -- it doesn't make any sense. The price of rice has nothing to do with the cost of generating electricity and how much people earn has nothing to do with the cost of generating electricity.

Coal is an international commodity, and the prices equalize internationally, same with most of the equipment. So PPP prices are definitely not correct to use here. Labour is the only differentiating factor and for highly sought-after skills the difference between local and international salaries shrinks relative to the difference in unskilled labour.

If you look at the countries that pay next to nothing for their electricity you will notice that they are heavily subsidized by the governments. And mostly in places you probably don't want to live in.

I am stunned that people think that prices should be based on what we want them to be rather than what it cost to generate. And sure Eskom needs to be more cost effective, but part of the cost of electricity now is related to the under-recovery of previous years that keeps on rolling over-and-over (we spend almost two decades with cheap power without investing in new stations).

Subsidizing electricity or pricing it incorrectly leads to wrong consumer behaviour. If electricity is too cheap the case for installing LEDs, solar water heaters, heat pump water heaters, solar PV is weaker than what they should be.

What we really, really need in South Africa is a way to do time-of-use billing. People on a budget can shift their usage times around and it will make people think twice before spinning up air friers during peak times. It will be a super-efficient way to reduce peak usage and give people options to reduce their bills without necessarily using less overall electricity.
 
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I do always love a comparison of our shitty 3rd world country to 1st world countries. Then government/Eskom etc want 1st world prices for us.

On those countries , taxes go their destinations (police, cheap transport, roads, schools) etc. We still have to fork extra for those...

And then make our electricity more expensive, take away 1 leverage we could have to get investments into the country. So let the unemployment numbers sky rocket. Well done.
 
R8/kW in Germany, if thats what we aspiring to achieve then we talking about R1000 for a 125units
It's only a matter of time.

I'm already producing electricity at R7.79/kWh as at the end of September 2022.

By the end of the year that should be under R6.70.

Grid power is only there for emergency while pv and batteries are my primary source of electricity.
 
Why compare Nigeria's GDP with ours ? That makes no sense whatsoever.

De Ruyter is not saying our electricity prices should be permanently above the world average. Only temporary while we transition to a deregulated environment.

Temporary price spikes are very common in market based economies. For example Covid caused mask prices to spike and then they came back down.

A temporary spike will create an inventive to be more energy efficient. And to install more solar.
 
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