How much do you earn annually?

How much do you earn annually?

  • R1 - R100,000

    Votes: 19 5.6%

  • R100,000 - R249,000

    Votes: 16 4.7%

  • R250,000 - R299,000

    Votes: 14 4.1%

  • R300,000 - R399,000

    Votes: 22 6.5%

  • R400,000 - R599,000

    Votes: 36 10.7%

  • R600,000 - R999,000

    Votes: 72 21.3%

  • More than R1 million

    Votes: 123 36.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 36 10.7%
  • Total voters
    338
Pre or post tax? 1m pre tax is really not unusual in any professional work, nor will it buy you a middle class lifestyle for a family of 4 if you don't have a house already.
 
notayoba said:
Pre or post tax? 1m pre tax is really not unusual in any professional work, nor will it buy you a middle class lifestyle for a family of 4 if you don't have a house already.
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Yip, sad but true. R1 mil gross isn't enough to raise a family, unless you got a partner that is also pulling in a similar number, and money is spent with caution.
 
koeks525 said:
Yip, I cry each month when I see R20K going to PAYE taxes each month. You start feeling the taxes the higher up you go in the tax brackets.

I don't think most mid-level devs are earning "big bucks". In my opinion, I think most SA software developers earn market related salaries, while a few earn well-above the market average for a myriad of reasons. I use the OfferZEN market research articles to determine what I should NOT be earning for my current level, hahaha.

At a previous company I worked for, the CTO sent me this article, to justify "fair pay" (after rejecting my promotion), when I know you can get as much money as you want; you don't have to peg your earnings to the "market average". This list makes me want to switch jobs again in a year's time, hahaha :D.
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I’d wait a bit. When hiring senior developers, stability of someone who stays in a job for a while is a factor as of late. Do 2 years minimum
 
notayoba said:
Pre or post tax? 1m pre tax is really not unusual in any professional work, nor will it buy you a middle class lifestyle for a family of 4 if you don't have a house already.
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Depends on your lifestyle. If you’re comfortable in Soweto; except for your travel being higher. Schooling, medical care, electricity and water would be a lot cheaper than moving to the North or up basically.

Things become difficult when you want to look like your pay check. Buy a 10 pack of shirts from Temu and save your money is my motto
 
Pho3nix said:
I’d wait a bit. When hiring senior developers, stability of someone who stays in a job for a while is a factor as of late. Do 2 years minimum
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BIG ask, I'm gonna try to be really faithful. Really going to try. The devil in me says "you need to hop next year again, go get your money, honey! being a loyal woman isn't going to pay the bills!". I am still a little salty from what happened to me last year, so maybe I will calm down in the next couple of months.
 
koeks525 said:
BIG ask, I'm gonna try to be really faithful. Really going to try. The devil in me says "you need to hop next year again, go get your money, honey!". I am still a little salty from what happened to me last year, so maybe I will calm down in the next couple of months.
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Don't do it. Seen a few CV's and they get tossed because the last 2 jobs someone couldn't do even 1 year.
There are a few other factors to being a Snr Dev over just being able to churn code, look it at from that aspect. You don't need to be furniture but waiting the few years will pay dividends (literally lol) when you do move.
 
RedViking said:
40% of Mybroadbanders earn a million plus. :eek:
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I know... shook! People around here are making good coin each year. I wanna be a sugar baby for a daddy on here, hehehe.
Pho3nix said:
Don't do it. Seen a few CV's and they get tossed because the last 2 jobs someone couldn't do even 1 year.
There are a few other factors to being a Snr Dev over just being able to churn code, look it at from that aspect. You don't need to be furniture but waiting the few years will pay dividends (literally lol) when you do move.
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I hear you, and I ideally don't want a "rocky" resume. I think I am just going through a bitter career phase, which should pass soonish. I was promoted to Snr. Software Dev but ended up rejecting it and moved to another company after that promo came with no pay hike (and I determined I wouldn't actually learn or do much new, and that it'd be best to leave ASAP and get a proper Snr. Dev role elsewhere). If career saltiness was a thing, I would put myself in that bag.
 
koeks525 said:
BIG ask, I'm gonna try to be really faithful. Really going to try. The devil in me says "you need to hop next year again, go get your money, honey! being a loyal woman isn't going to pay the bills!". I am still a little salty from what happened to me last year, so maybe I will calm down in the next couple of months.
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If your CV passed my desk with a lot of hopping it would go directly into the trash.
 
koeks525 said:
I know... shook! People around here are making good coin each year. I wanna be a sugar baby for a daddy on here, hehehe.

I hear you, and I ideally don't want a "rocky" resume. I think I am just going through a bitter career phase, which should pass soonish. I was promoted to Snr. Software Dev but ended up rejecting it and moved to another company after that promo came with no pay hike (and I determined I wouldn't actually learn or do much new, and that it'd be best to leave ASAP and get a proper Snr. Dev role elsewhere). If career saltiness was a thing, I would put myself in that bag.
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A promotion without a pay hike is the ultimate middle finger to an employee. I can't believe companies still do this and don't realise what an insult it is to employees. It's like giving someone an empty present box wrapped in a nice bow.
 
deweyzeph said:
A promotion without a pay hike is the ultimate middle finger to an employee. I can't believe companies still do this and don't realise what an insult it is to employees. It's like giving someone an empty present box wrapped in a nice bow.
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Indeed, it did feel like that to me, like "oh we don't have a problem handing you whatever title you want", and it did hurt a bit, considering I had been working there for about 4 years, and I had grown to like working there, and I had made significant contributions there. That and I also had my manager gaslight me for turning down something which I felt was not to my benefit in any way. I knew then that, "nah honey, its time to bounce, you are not cared for or valued here". I don't think the employer was wrong; the employer simply chose what was in their best interests... so in a similar vein, the employee should do what is best for themselves as well. I think I am just temporarily salty, hopefully some good stuff comes through at the place I work for now, and that they handle promotions a little differently.

/aplolgies for derailing this thread!
 
deweyzeph said:
A promotion without a pay hike is the ultimate middle finger to an employee. I can't believe companies still do this and don't realise what an insult it is to employees. It's like giving someone an empty present box wrapped in a nice bow.
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Probably equivalent to giving them a pair of garden shears or lawn mower, since they now have greater responsibility for no money.

That said, I have seen it happen before, where the company went and normalized all those people’s pay to their appropriate level when things were healthier later on.
 
I do think that the OP should add more resolution to the upper end of the poll. 1.2m, 1.5m, 2m, 3m, etc. to avoid the truncated distribution. Same with OfferZen - I’m pretty interested in who’s earning the top 1%, but they cut off the data too.
 
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