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I have 2yrs C#, and MS SQL (been on failed & successful projects, more so the former)
Also VB6,Reportin(Crystal Reports and report viewer)
I'm first year student in Unisa.

How much can I expect, I develop data driven applications - think financial,corporate but not gaming/graphical types.
I currently earn R9300 net.
Thanks
 
As a current UNISA student all I can say is that until you get your qualification its not a factor except for giving your prospective employer a headsup that your going to need days off for exams.

You need to mention where you are as R9K sounds right for Somerset West/Stellies but would be a bit low for Cape Town CBD.
 
2yrs is still very junior IMO (more so since you mention failed projects... can't think of any project I worked on that failed other than the client failing to PAY for the work done)

R9300 net is a very good salary. I'd revise when I'm 3/4th year if I were you. By that time you should be netting about 12k anyway.
 
AcidRaZor said:
R9300 net is a very good salary. I'd revise when I'm 3/4th year if I were you. By that time you should be netting about 12k anyway.
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What? Are salaries really that low in Cape Town or is it just because he doesn't have a degree?
 
It really depends on how good you are. I know guys who walked into R30k+ jobs straight out of university and then also guys getting R8k. The market at the moment isn't great for people without a good amount of experience though.
 
Experience plays a big role when it comes to IT Jobs, it can double your salary or half it XD.
 
Messugga said:
It really depends on how good you are. I know guys who walked into R30k+ jobs straight out of university and then also guys getting R8k. The market at the moment isn't great for people without a good amount of experience though.
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Yes, a good amount of experience is 5+ years. Dunno about the SA Market, but, internationally, now is not a good time to be looking because there are loads of people in the Market chasing the same jobs.
 
Well first thing don't mention your failed projects, although, I'm quite intrigued as to how you have failed projects, feel free to elaborate...
 
^^vampire^^ said:
Well first thing don't mention your failed projects, although, I'm quite intrigued as to how you have failed projects, feel free to elaborate...
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I assume the OP means he was part of a team that failed on a project.

Generally there are three ways a project can fail:
  1. Late
  2. Over budget
  3. Incorrect Scope
 
UnUnOctium said:
Latter.
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Former... salaries are generally a lot lower in Cape Town...a degree has nothing to do with it, I don't have a degree, or matric, and I'm well paid. If I move to Johannesburg I can get between 30-75% more.
 
xrapidx said:
Former... salaries are generally a lot lower in Cape Town...a degree has nothing to do with it, I don't have a degree, or matric, and I'm well paid. If I move to Johannesburg I can get between 30-75% more.
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Clearly we have different luck in terms of jobs then :)
 
^^vampire^^ said:
Well first thing don't mention your failed projects, although, I'm quite intrigued as to how you have failed projects, feel free to elaborate...
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Been on failed projects, but the recent ones I've worked on were fine.
It's a case of some taking too long, but these were projects that were already struggling to meet deadlines - projects that I didn't join/initiate from the start so that doesn't worry me, I can explain myself in a way that shows I've learned something from the failed attempts.
 
Nett is a pretty bad comparison because it doesn't indicate your benefits. Should rather talk in CTC i.e. you could be investing 10k pm in a pension fund and have top-of-the-range medical aid.
 
Messugga said:
What? Are salaries really that low in Cape Town or is it just because he doesn't have a degree?
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Yes

Regardless of what they advertise the jobs pay R8-R12K for under 4yrs experience, and then R15-20K for >5yrs experience. With a degree you use to start at R20K but now its R15K. Oh, and the the guy with the degree will not get any raises until 5yrs when the non-graduate catches up.

I just finished 4 mths of job interviews in the Cape till I eventually got a good job offer and I'm not taking the job for its salary.
 
xrapidx said:
Former... salaries are generally a lot lower in Cape Town...a degree has nothing to do with it, I don't have a degree, or matric, and I'm well paid. If I move to Johannesburg I can get between 30-75% more.
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Lets not start that debate again. Only guys without degrees are convinced it does not count. When your applying for a job the prospective employer is looking for the best deal and the guy with the same skills as you but has the degree will get the job. Also the job market is insanely tough at the moment and anything extra to your name is vital.

I'm 36 and can say that in IT if you don't have a degree at my age then your limited with your opportunities, hence my reason for studying. I've also seen graduates will always get paid more than their non-graduate equivalents.

But I will say that just because someone is a graduate, does not and never will imply they are much better if they do not have the correct attitude and competency to be a developer.
 
Well - its never stopped me... I'm sure a degree will open doors, but it doesn't guarantee you a job, or a decent salary - and if it can guarantee me more pay, I'll gladly do it, but it'll have to be significantly more to justify the effort (I'm 31), and consider myself well paid.

(I'm also not saying that you shouldn't complete a degree - I'm saying just because you have one doesn't mean you're going to have it easy)
 
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