RedViking
Nord of the South
Cool. I'm. quitting Coffee? Okay. Move on. Y'all not being very productive here and get stuck on a single point.
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Vast majority of stuff tested in that study have nothing to do with productivity in an office environmentThe reason is they are underproductive without it because addiction.
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BBC Two - Trust Me, I'm a Doctor, Series 2, Episode 3 - What does caffeine really do to our brains?
The surprising truth about what the world's most popular drug does to our brains.www.bbc.co.uk
Firstly, nonsense, of course they are related to productivity. Secondly, that doesn't change the fact that you wake up doff because you are in withdrawal... And that caffeine hit is every bit as good as a ciggie to a smoker or a dop to an alcoholic. Satisfying cravings from addiction is always satisfying. That's what is perceived as a production booster.
Smokers are also more productive after a hit of nicotine. Should you start smoking if you don't already?
I think there was a primate study where dopamine receptor recovery was tracked after a few weeks of low dose cocaine in their drinking water. IIRC, it took a minimum of 3 months to return to normal. I’ll check my bookmarks when I get back to my PC. Don’t know if that relates to adenosine receptors but caffeine does spike other neurotransmitters as well.Personally, I don't get addicted to caffeine. I realised this years ago when I could switch from multiple coffees a day to exclusively hot chocolate or cocoa for weeks with no withdrawal.
I've been off caffeine for at least 8 months recently and I've found sitting my desk and found it hard to just sit my desk and get things done. Compared to when I have coffee, I can sit for hours on end getting stuff done vs getting up every 20 minutes without caffeine.
Maybe caffeine does the senses a bit, maybe it help make sitting hours at desk tolerable.
Personally I find that cup of coffee before bedtime make me sleep better. Though I remember seeing something online that science also confirms this but there is a window for this effect, if you don't fall asleep during that window then you're going to be up the entire night.I think there was a primate study where dopamine receptor recovery was tracked after a few weeks of low dose cocaine in their drinking water. IIRC, it took a minimum of 3 months to return to normal. I’ll check my bookmarks when I get back to my PC. Don’t know if that relates to adenosine receptors but caffeine does spike other neurotransmitters as well.
Also it’s known that susceptibility to caffeine’s effects are genetic. Some people metabolise it slower, others faster. Everyone suffers worse sleep though, and sleep is huge for productivity.
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I am TRYING very HARD not to get TRIGGERED into this coffee debate.That said, I feel bad discussing this in a @RedViking thread
Yes. The problem I use to get was that I use to wake up randomy in the middle of the night and not fall asleep again .Do you exercise regularly?
My case it was totally nutrition as the culprit, long term I need start eating more salads and other vegetables.That's what happens to me if I don't make an effort to wind down at leas an hour before bed.
Phones are a curse.
and yet they punt their micromanaged lives. But ok...Cool. I'm. quitting Coffee? Okay. Move on. Y'all not being very productive here and get stuck on a single point.
Slight derailed: Years ago whilst in the gents, I heard the following in a moaning voice that start out slow and low and proceeded to get louder and faster until it climaxed with a loud orgasmic shout:
I guess you didn't watch the video then.This one explains it well
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Caffeine: The Silent Killer of Success
VideoToday's tip for increasing your emotional intelligence is the most simple and straightforward you're ever going to get. For many people, this tip has the potential to have a bigger impact upon their emotional intelligence (EQ) than any other. The catch? You have to cut down on caffeine, and...www.forbes.com
caffeine enhances dopamine (DA) signaling in the brain, which it does predominantly by antagonizing adenosine A2A receptors (A2AR).
The widespread belief that dopamine regulates pleasure could go down in history with the latest research results on the role of this neurotransmitter. Researchers have shown that it regulates motivation, causing individuals to initiate and persevere to obtain something either positive or negative
If you keep neurotransmitters elevated for long enough, the receptor sites decrease, which reduces the sensitivity to the neurotransmitter over time. So initially you get all of the benefits of the dopamine spike but eventually homeostasis kicks and you need that spike just to get back to baseline.I guess you didn't watch the video then.
Caffeine helps me be more productive, I spent a good part of the last year and most of this year caffeine free and saw my productivity go way down.
May this would explain it well for you.
Caffeine increases striatal dopamine D2/D3 receptor availability in the human brain - PMC
Caffeine, the most widely consumed psychoactive substance in the world, is used to promote wakefulness and enhance alertness. Like other wake-promoting drugs (stimulants and modafinil), caffeine enhances dopamine (DA) signaling in the brain, which ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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Dopamine regulates the motivation to act, study shows
The widespread belief that dopamine regulates pleasure could go down in history with the latest research results on the role of this neurotransmitter. Researchers have shown that it regulates motivation, causing individuals to initiate and persevere to obtain something either positive or negative.www.sciencedaily.com
I though I was 8 or 9 months caffeine free but after looking into it, turns out that I've been caffeine free for almost a year and a half. Time is flying.If you keep neurotransmitters elevated for long enough, the receptor sites decrease, which reduces the sensitivity to the neurotransmitter over time. So initially you get all of the benefits of the dopamine spike but eventually homeostasis kicks and you need that spike just to get back to baseline.
A reset can take months, so you would expect your productivity levels to be below baseline for a long time after you quit.
Yes but that could be because as time passed you’ve become sensitive to caffeine again so you are once again feeling the effects. Caffeine tolerance and then dependence would creep up on you slowly and subtly again so you might not even notice.I though I was 8 or 9 months caffeine free but after looking into it, turns out that I've been caffeine free for almost a year and a half. Time is flying.
I've definitely noticed an improvement in my productivity recently when I startet to have coffee again around a couple months ago.
Short term. It doesn't last.
Starts with one cup, then that's not enough.
First thing in the morning before caffeine is the best time to tell whether it's working for you or not. If you feel like the walking dead that's because you have additional adenosine receptors and they are telling you to sleep. When you have caffeine, it replaces adenosine in those receptors, hence you feel more awake.