Huawei Mate 30/Mate 30 Pro

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Let's assume Huawei would allow unlocking and rooting (like a sort-of middle finger to the US), how difficult would it be for a GApps solution? That way they could launch without Google, while technically not being liable for what the users do with their phones :p
 

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Huawei may face a major roadblock for its next flagship phone, the Mate 30 — it won’t be able to launch with Google apps and services due to the White House banning US companies (like Google) from doing business with the Chinese telecommunications firm, according to a report from Reuters.
That means that the Mate 30 — and presumably, other upcoming devices like the now-delayed foldable Mate X — could be severely limited at launch. They’ll still run Android, which is at its core open-source software that’s freely available. But Google has confirmed to The Verge that the Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro (rumored to launch on September 18th) won’t be able to ship with Google’s apps and services on board, which could put them at a severe disadvantage given how important Google’s apps are.
The Mate 30 will be cut off from the Play Store entirely
Huawei was granted a three-month extension from the United States Commerce Department back in May to allow it to take action “necessary to provide service and support, including software updates or patches, to existing Huawei handsets that were available to the public on or before May 16, 2019.” A second 90-day extension was just granted to the company last week and is set to end on November 19th, but that only applies to previously released phones. The Mate 30 (and any other variants of it that Huawei plans to release) doesn’t fit that bill and therefore won’t be included under that exemption.
Google apps and services — including, crucially, the Google Play Store — are considered a key part of Android as an operating system, so much so that the European Union fined Google a record $5 billion last year for using Play Store access as leverage to force Android phone manufacturers to default to Google search on their hardware. The only real success story for Android without Google services is Amazon’s inexpensive Fire tablets, and those aren’t exactly in the same ballpark as the Mate 30, which is a flagship device meant to compete with devices like the Galaxy Note 10 Plus, Pixel 4, and OnePlus 7 Pro.
Chinese phone companies have had to work without the Play Store for years (since Google doesn’t offer services within the country), but its a much more chaotic marketplace, with hundreds of app stores all competing and different apps available depending on the store.
Huawei has been working on its own Play Store alternative since 2018 as a contingency for this exact sort of situation, but the US’s ban means that it’ll still have an uphill battle ahead, since companies like Twitter, Facebook, Pinterest, or any other US-based company won’t be able to offer apps for that store, even if they wanted to.

This is a deal breaker!
Well this is obviously not good news. Not a expert to know how Huawei can get around this. Hopefully they find a way. It would suck for something like this to spoil a potential superd phone.
 

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The good thing is that there are some major alternatives for things like mapping (Here Maps and Sygic), using the Huawei Email app to get your GMail emails and of course the endless office alternatives like Polaris Office.

But yeah, things like YouTube would now require using the Web Browser instead of the app.

If you are looking to buy a Huawei right now both the Mate 20 Pro and P30 Pro are great alternatives if you absolutely NEED Google apps, Android 10 is signed and sorted for them in terms of Google access etc...
 

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There'll always be those who really want a Huawei and will go through loops to have it working with Google apps.
The average Joe though wants everything to already be there
This will be a major blow to them
 

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Huawei Mate 30 is arriving for real on September 19

Huawei’s future on the smartphone market has been in limbo since the trade negotiations between China and the United States, but for now, it looks the timeline is back on track. The company announced the launch date of the Huawei Mate 30 series - it is September 19, and the event will take place in Munich, Germany.

The company is saying it will go “full circle”, vaguely suggesting a circular camera setup on the back. Of course, it could also mean other symbolic stuff that comes with the shape of the circle, but since we already spotted some renders and cases, we are pretty sure the Huawei Mate 30 lineup will have first for its kind camera setup on the back.

 

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Nice. The bigger question is whether it will have Google support. I suspect this will be a deal breaker for many.
 

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Looks like a thing of beauty. Not 100% sold on the notch though
 

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Huawei Mate 30 RS Porsche Design also incoming

Huawei is releasing its Mate 30 series later this week. We expect at least the Huawei Mate 30 and the Mate 30 Pro to be announced, but there is a third phone in tow - Huawei Mate 30 RS Porsche Design. The device’s arrival was announced by Richard Yu, CEO at Huawei and we expect it to be quite different than its regular siblings.

The short eight-second clip suggests we should expect a back panel with vertical design elements. We also see a thin cutout, meaning the camera lineup on the back is likely to be in a different shape than the expected circular setup.

It is not unusual for the Porsche-themed devices to be different than the regular Huawei smartphones. The Huawei Mate RS Porsche Design came with a triple camera in the center, although it arrived alongside the P20 family which had its shooters on the side. The Mate 10 had its cameras lined up properly, but the horizontal design element was replaced by a vertical stripe with the Porsche Design logo.


 

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Let's assume Huawei would allow unlocking and rooting (like a sort-of middle finger to the US), how difficult would it be for a GApps solution? That way they could launch without Google, while technically not being liable for what the users do with their phones :p
AFAIK you don't need a phone unlocked or rooted to install apks like GApps
 

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Thats sucks. I don't want to flash my phone with every little OS security update released by Huawei.
Well, I'm not saying that is the case, it was a question of sorts.

I have limited experience with rooting and custom roms but from what I can recall, the times I did load roms that didn't come with GApps, I had to flash the zip from recovery.
 

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Well, I'm not saying that is the case, it was a question of sorts.

I have limited experience with rooting and custom roms but from what I can recall, the times I did load roms that didn't come with GApps, I had to flash the zip from recovery.
I think you are right. GApps is so tightly integrated with Android that you can't just install it like a normal apk.

However Huawei is so huge I am sure they will create a way by removing security restrictions so that GApps can be installed without rooting the device. It is a flagship after all.

I wouldn't want to void my warrantee by rooting it.
 
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Huawei Mate 30, 30 Pro and Porsche Design images leak

Huawei’s next generation of Mate flagships is just three days away from their official unveiling but you can get an early peek at their design, courtesy of @evleaks. This is not the first time we’ve seen the Mate 30 duo, but the Porsche Design special edition is quite something.

Let’s start with the Huawei Mate 30 Pro. It has a round camera island with four cameras as expected. The LED flash and the 3D ToF sensor are on the side. The screen has a mid-sized notch (housing the new 3D face scanning hardware). We’re excited to see the “waterfall” design in person – it looks like it will completely hide the side bezels, but we’ll see what this 90° bend means in terms of usability and image distortion.


Mate 30.JPG
 

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The google apk wont work on the ones without the google license, also thought it might but unfortunately wont be able to.
 
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