I hate ITunes

As you say, a scan of the folder in either real time, every time the program is opened or ever 1 hour.

We don't all want iTunes to be the hub of everything we do. Apple should at least give you the option.

10 years ago I had a media streamer called Pinnacle Systems which did this - and it was great knowing that every time I looked in the library, it was updated and synced with My Music.
 
iTunes is horrible for music that's tagged incorrectly. I like it because it forces me to make sure everything is tagged before dragging and dropping into iTunes.
If you still have your original folder structure, you can use something like mp3tag (opensource) to update the tags from file names, or by manually entering an album name and letting it download the rest of the info (there might be something that can tag from folder name, can't recall what it was though; perhaps a plugin for Songbird).
It's horribly tedious... but do it in batches of 10 albums / artists once a week and you'll get it done in a few months.

If you want to tag best is to use MusicBrainz Picard

MusicBrainz Picard is a cross-platform (Linux/Mac OS X/Windows) application written in Python and is the official MusicBrainz tagger.

Picard supports the majority of audio file formats, is capable of using audio fingerprints (PUIDs, AcoustIDs), performing CD lookups and disc ID submissions, and it has excellent Unicode support. Additionally, there are several plugins available that extend Picard's features.

When tagging files, Picard uses an album-oriented approach. This approach allows it to utilize the MusicBrainz data as effectively as possible and correctly tag your music. For more information, see the illustrated quick start guide to tagging.

That said I still hate iTunes... and prefer to manually manage my portable music.
 
Use mediamonkey. You will not go back to crappy iTunes and no need to update every 2 weeks :)

Yeah on windows i would stay away from iTunes because its just dog slow. But on the mac its actually quite fast and a lot more enjoyable. They just need to improve the device syncing stuff, but i guess iCloud is taking care of most of that.
 
Yeah on windows i would stay away from iTunes because its just dog slow. But on the mac its actually quite fast and a lot more enjoyable. They just need to improve the device syncing stuff, but i guess iCloud is taking care of most of that.

That just explains the biggest problem I have with Apple. The lock-in, they dont play noce with other platforms and "force" you to use theirs. the more you do, the more you get locked in.

Or as this review says:

iCloud Is Like a Roach Motel You’ll Love Anyway

Apple launches its iCloud suite of services today, offering 5GB of free storage (more if you pay) for music, photos, apps, and other data, all of which sync effortlessly across any number of Apple devices: iMacs, Macbooks, Mac Minis, Mac Pros, iPod Touchs, iPhones, iPads, Apple TVs, and AirPort Expresses.

This will strengthen a trend that began with the iPod: Once you buy one Apple product, it makes sense to buy another. A study found last year that 92 percent of iPad owners own an iPod, 74 percent of them own a Mac, and 66 percent own an iPhone. The sample size in that study was only 448 people, but it confirms what many of us know firsthand: Once you go Mac, you don’t always go back, even if it means spending more money.

Steve Jobs reportedly resisted launching iTunes for Windows back in 2001, and was “persuaded” to do so by his employees. This is an unlikely scenario for two reasons. First, 95 percent of the desktop market was Windows back then, and Jobs needed a way to crack that market. Second, instances of Apple employees telling Steve Jobs what to do are exceedingly rare, his failed attempt to institute a cult-style dress code being a notable exception.

That Windows iPod/iTunes launch was highly strategic in retrospect, because it arguably caused hundreds of millions of Windows users to buy their first Mac product. As just one example, I used 100-percent Windows computers back then; the iPod was the first Apple product I ever reviewed, and it led, directly or indirectly, to my purchase of several Mac laptops.

Apple’s launch of iCloud today makes its devices even more contagious, because now there isn’t just a metaphysical connection between Apple’s products, but a literal one, in iCloud.

As Wired.com notes in its review of iOS 5 (which also rolls out today),
  • Overall, in its current state, iCloud is mostly beneficial for people who own an Apple family of products: a Mac and at least one iOS device. I doubt Windows users will get much out of iCloud, because the only easily usable feature available to them is PhotoStream.
  • And that’s really Apple’s goal: to reel you into its ecosystem with the convenience of iCloud. If you own an iPhone, now it makes more sense than ever to have a Mac and an iPad, versus a Windows PC and an Android tablet, just to take advantage of iCloud.


Exactly. The iPhone, iPad, and iPod Touch are already incredibly “sticky” devices, because after you’ve bought some apps, switching to Android or Windows Phone 7 means throwing out all of those apps as well. But after today, it will also mean throwing away your ultra-convenient iCloud storage account, because Apple would sooner give away iPads for free than port iCloud features to Android. After today, one Apple device increases in actual value if you own a second.

Apple’s new strategy, to borrow an unfortunate metaphor, is akin to that of a roach motel: Once Apple lures you into its ecosystem, you’re already likely to stay put, and iCloud will make that doubly true. This strategy is not wrong or evil, just smart. But it could end up costing you money over the years. Unless you want to chuck it all and start over, you’ll only be buying hardware and much of your software from a single company.
 
As you say, a scan of the folder in either real time, every time the program is opened or ever 1 hour.

We don't all want iTunes to be the hub of everything we do. Apple should at least give you the option.

10 years ago I had a media streamer called Pinnacle Systems which did this - and it was great knowing that every time I looked in the library, it was updated and synced with My Music.

Have you used the iTunes watch folder? C:\Users\Your Username\Music\iTunes\iTunes Media\Automatically Add to iTunes\

Any music that finds its way into that folder will automatically be imported into iTunes.

If this has been mentioned i apologize I'm kinda in-between things now.
 
This hasn't ...

But what do I do exactly?
 
We don't all want iTunes to be the hub of everything we do. Apple should at least give you the option.

Unfortunately that is, and has always been, Apple's strategy. It's one of the reasons why they are so successful - it just works for the ordinary person on the street. The 95% non-geeks buying consumer goods. Fairly simple and easy options and interface, less opportunity to introduce complexities and problems.

You are always able to vote with your wallet.
 
Have you used the iTunes watch folder? C:\Users\Your Username\Music\iTunes\iTunes Media\Automatically Add to iTunes\

Any music that finds its way into that folder will automatically be imported into iTunes.

If this has been mentioned i apologize I'm kinda in-between things now.

But I guess you must have iTunes managing your library for that to work?
 
I'm not a big fan of the windows version of iTunes, it's certainly not as smooth and refined as the Mac one. I've always felt that Apple should stick to developing Apple software, Microsoft to Windows, and never the twain shall meet.
 
That just explains the biggest problem I have with Apple. The lock-in, they dont play noce with other platforms and "force" you to use theirs. the more you do, the more you get locked in.

Or as this review says:
Yeah well you can use dropbox. The thing with apple is they may occasionally want you to do things their way but most of the time their way is actually easier and more seamless. Once you stop fighting iTunes and the like you do get a better experience more often than not.

But tbh i've kinda gotten past fiddling too much with my computers, and prefer for things to just work.
 
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But tbh i've kinda gotten past fiddling too much with my computers, and prefer for things to just work.
Same. It was fun when I was younger but I've got better things to do with my time these days.
 
The good thing about Windows/Android is that it just works.
With iAnything you are stuck with Apple.
Apple leave you no CHOICE. It is either their way or some other way.
Unfortunately for them the other way is often what customers want.
 
But I guess you must have iTunes managing your library for that to work?
Yes and no. Anything put into the folder i mentioned will get added instantly to iTunes even if keep iTunes media folder organized is unticked. But it'll still move the stuff to the main iTunes music folder which means you probably want to have your tags sorted first.
 
The good thing about Windows/Android is that it just works.
With iAnything you are stuck with Apple.
Apple leave you no CHOICE. It is either their way or some other way.
Unfortunately for them the other way is often what customers want.

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The good thing about Windows/Android is that it just works.
With iAnything you are stuck with Apple.
Apple leave you no CHOICE. It is either their way or some other way.
Unfortunately for them the other way is often what customers want.

How is there no choice? You can install whatever you want with the istore having half a million apps. On the mac its exactly how it works on windows in that you can run your system however you like using whatever you like.

You don't even have to use iTunes with your iPhone if you really don't want to.
 
my gripe is the duplicate files. if you use the duplicate files feature it shows you the original plus the duplicate. so you either have to select the duplicate to delete or re-import your music collection-which mya also have duplicates but sitting in different folders.
 
my gripe is the duplicate files. if you use the duplicate files feature it shows you the original plus the duplicate. so you either have to select the duplicate to delete or re-import your music collection-which mya also have duplicates but sitting in different folders.
If most of your music was acquired outside of the iTunes store (me too) then I suggest looking at an app like TuneUp -- deals with missing cover art, correct song and album tags, and helps to identify and remove duplicates. It really helps to take away a lot of the pain in managing your music.
 
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Why is everyone talking about music when OP is talking about his photos.

BTW, when I connect my iphone to my pc, it opens itunes and syncs, bla bla bla, but it also shows up in Computer and I can access my photos from there and then copy paste to my hart's content. :)
 
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