i need help.

superB.... maybe yes

But like I said in some of my posts

The day a woman tells me "not all men are the same"
Is the same day I will stop saying "all women are the same"

Sure. We're all human. We're ALL unique and wonderful snowflakes.

I never said never. I've met the most innocent well-meaning women in my life before, exact same behavior. They'll come to me asking "what should I do, he did nothing wrong but I don't love him, I like this other guy now"

Like I said, I've been the other guy (and the guy learning about the other guy) before. They're not the devil incarnate. I give you that. But I don't faff about when my feelings change towards someone.

I don't use them for my matric dance and then dump them afterwards. I don't keep them around because I won't have a date for the wedding I'm attending and then dump them right after that. I'm mature enough to say "hey, listen, we need to talk" before I have the need to find someone else.

It's just so many stories from these guys all end up with these insecure women, using them for their own personal means to put up this facade that everything is okay until the next Mr. Right (Now) arrives and then when he does, they have a reason to dump the guy and then move on.

Everyone hurts.
Everyone bleeds.

But it's crap that women get to treat us this way and then when we treat women like that we're "bastards" and "all the same"

I mean seriously. I'm not a guy who uses women. I'm not hating women (boobies!!!). I just don't like the fact that they CAN BE so underhanded and backstabbing at times.

Men say what they feel. Why can't women?

"I don't love you anymore"

That approach WILL get a "WTF!" response from the guy, but guess what? It will then be out there. Depending on his maturity he will romp and stomp and be mad for a while but afterwards calm down and then talk about things.

Yet, women would go to great lengths to start fights. These fights can be about the cup holder not being in the upright position or the doilies in the toilet being 6 inches to the left instead of the right. Men usually desensitizes themselves because of these stupid moronic type fights because they know that this isn't the cause of the underlying problem.

But... get this! Most men are too ****ing stupid to realize what it's really about.

Reading between the lines can get you into trouble, because if you constantly read between the lines you will be a jealous paranoid bastard. If you don't read between the lines you're a bastard ANYWAY.

So seriously. Where does it end?

In all my relationships all I asked for was honesty. (Thats when I ask her to be my girlfriend) and all I've ever got was a bunch of fights about nothing that turned out to be something totally unrelated turning her off even more (her finding reasons to dump) and then finding someone else.

True, not all women find someone else before cutting the ties. And there are a lot of women that get dumped (Sex and the City and all those shows must be written from normal experiences I guess)

I'm in no way advocating either side. Nor am I looking for pity or playing a victim. I'm voicing my opinion on the situation at hand, from experiences I've had, from conclusions I've drawn.

I'm in love with this woman right now. And I'm pretty much sure she loves me back. So where does that leave me playing the victim?

I fall back on my skill to make ANYONE smile in ANY situation. At least I know it gets me somewhere. People have looked at me weirdly and said, "Pieter, you know, even though I know you're depressed as hell, you can still make me smile with your jokes"

(Yes I used my real name in that one)

If you stomp your head on something 99 times, the 100th time you won't. And by just telling it like it is to other people doing the same thing will give them an idea of how other people experienced things.

The more opinions I get about a subject and the more research I do the better informed I am the better I can **** up my own thing and go "Oh yea.... they were right"

I regret not taking my dad's advice, but you know what? I'm a better person because of it and because I learned things on my own. Now I'm ready to spread the joy of my experiences.

Yay, join my church.... Donate R50 every Tuesday.... please? :)
 
Oh, and I don't have much of an ego to begin with, thanks for assuming I have one ;)
 
Natasha H said:
You beat him up for dating your ex, meanwhile you have been sleeping with a whole bunch of woman? How ironic it would be if you got beat up by one of their exs.
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firstly, she dumped me. i'm allowed to do whatever i want because she's the one who doesnt want to be with me anymore, not the other way around.
secondly, the story isnt just as simple as that... but i really dont see the need to justify what i felt was deserved

stoke said:
It would not be any fun if you did not feel like that. Try to enjoy the harshness of these pure emotions, they're wicked.
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maybe in hindsight. but i'm not there yet. but i must admit, i felt really good after the fight, i'm even smiling now that i think back at it... so maybe you're right.

jsheed_sa said:
Bad move on kicking his ass - you look like a prick now man...
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yeah, that might be true.. but i feel SOOO good about it.
today has been one of the best days i've had in a while... and i think the fight helped me to let go a bit. it also gave me a much needed confidence boost.

killadoob said:
Why did you let her go? then proceed to kick her new b/f's ass?
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i didnt let her go. and i kicked his ass because we had a bit of history while i was still dating her. long story.


anyway. yeah. i feel better today. my hands are sore as hell and i now think headbutting him was a bad idea... but i feel good.
i went to see the guy today and apologised, dropped off a bottle of johnny black to say sorry. he's friggin scared of me now... i love it.
oh, and i called devil bat and apologised to her too... then started laughing after i put the phone down and i'm still not sure why. i think it might be something to do with her laughing while she mentioned that he called her and told her that i came to visit... and he thought i was going to beat him again. i kinda got the impression that she now thinks that he's a bit of a sissy... having his ass handed to him by some semi-anorexic looking kid.
i feel good.

oh, and its good to know that theres quite a few other people who've also been screwed up by women/girls/demonic creatures
 
Wow do you give a peace offering to all the guys you beat up? Thats awesome.
 
Maybe it wasn't a bad move. Seems like they ok about it and don't some women like guys fighting over them ? Pretty way out there though.
 
hxc87x said:
i didnt let her go. and i kicked his ass because we had a bit of history while i was still dating her. long story.
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The only possible reason you gave which would halfway justify kicking a dudes ass over a girl. Which begs the question: why didnt you kick his ass when he was meddling with your gf as opposed to dating a girl who's clearly single and has been for three weeks?
 
thatdamnJoe said:
The only possible reason you gave which would halfway justify kicking a dudes ass over a girl. Which begs the question: why didnt you kick his ass when he was meddling with your gf as opposed to dating a girl who's clearly single and has been for three weeks?
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because he felt like it
 
adelp said:
Clap clap
+100
I love prescription drugs.....
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AcidRaZor said:
jewelbox. Masterbation isnt the answer to everything
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ROFL :D

Man I so wan tto tell you that you were stupid etcetc but hay sometimes somethings just do not have a reason for happening :)

If this girl means so much to you, swallow your pride and ask her to get back together with you.

Good luck man.
 
AcidRaZor said:
because he felt like it
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indeed

What a great philosophy. In fact, why not just abolish the idea of assault so we can all beat people up whenever we feel like it?

Because we're civilized; or, at least, some of us are.

If this dude was meddling in your relationship, youd be entitled to be angry. But to beat up a random dude who just started dating a (single!) girl because she is your ex is just plain wrong and there is absolutely no justification for it.
 
thatdamnJoe said:
indeed

What a great philosophy. In fact, why not just abolish the idea of assault so we can all beat people up whenever we feel like it?

Because we're civilized; or, at least, some of us are.

If this dude was meddling in your relationship, youd be entitled to be angry. But to beat up a random dude who just started dating a (single!) girl because she is your ex is just plain wrong and there is absolutely no justification for it.
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Well read what the OP said and you'll notice that this guy was there while they were having problems. Even if it's unjustified.

I never said he shouldn't be able to reap the consequences of his actions. I only said he did what he felt needed to be done. No kind of justification needed.

If I felt like I wanted to go take a **** in public, I can, because I'm an individual. **** society and whatever they think is civilized. Do I run away from the consequences of my actions? No. I don't.

So if he gets charged with assault I'm sure he's man enough to face the charges and say "You know what, I ****ed up, I'm willing to pay a debt to society" or whatever he needs to do to show he is sorry. Because face it, thats why there's prisons. To make people show they're sorry for what they did to other people that they infringed on their basic needs etc.

Live and let live.

Edit: Thats why I always will say, "Do whatever you feel like doing". You'll die always wondering "what if". If you feel like killing people and eating their brains because you're convinced that you're a zombie, be my guest. But don't be suprised when the poh-lice come a-knockin'
 
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AcidRaZor said:
Well read what the OP said and you'll notice that this guy was there while they were having problems. Even if it's unjustified.
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Which is why I said only IF he'd been meddling do you have any sort of excuse.

After all, you've been the 'other guy' too...

AcidRaZor said:
I've had 2 women in the past where I was the other guy, supporting them/making them laugh while their oblivious boyfriend didn't do **** to rectify the situation (or even help it by just changing small things in their behavior, which is a tough thing to do, especially if you're a momma's boy, 30, still living at home and have no job)
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AcidRaZor said:
I never said he shouldn't be able to reap the consequences of his actions. I only said he did what he felt needed to be done. No kind of justification needed.

If I felt like I wanted to go take a **** in public, I can, because I'm an individual. **** society and whatever they think is civilized. Do I run away from the consequences of my actions? No. I don't.
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but you certainly thought about it long and hard ;)
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=140077

And please stop with the anarchistic little fusk society stuff. If it weren't for society(read civilization) we'd all still be in caves.

AcidRaZor said:
So if he gets charged with assault I'm sure he's man enough to face the charges and say "You know what, I ****ed up, I'm willing to pay a debt to society" or whatever he needs to do to show he is sorry. Because face it, thats why there's prisons. To make people show they're sorry for what they did to other people that they infringed on their basic needs etc.

Live and let live.

Edit: Thats why I always will say, "Do whatever you feel like doing". You'll die always wondering "what if". If you feel like killing people and eating their brains because you're convinced that you're a zombie, be my guest. But don't be suprised when the poh-lice come a-knockin'
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I disagree completely. Animals go through life acting on instinct. You have a brain and you can control your emotions and actions. Its what seperates man from beasts. You have a responsibility to society and to yourself to use it. Jails arent only there for punishment, they also serve as deterrents (or they're supposed to) and to remove dangerous individuals from society, so its as much about other people as it is about the offender.

I say again: you cant beat the ***** out of some guy whos dating your ex. If he was meddling in your relationship, you should have sorted it out then and there. And even then, if the guy didnt know the cheating girl had a bf does that make him liable?

If you're older than 18, chances are any girl you date has an ex. Do they now all have the right to beat the ***** out you?
 
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thatdamnJoe said:
Which is why I said only IF he'd been meddling do you have any sort of excuse.

After all, you've been the 'other guy' too...
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Yup, and if the guy wants to beat the **** out of me he has every right to. Even if she broke up with him first to be single for 3 weeks and then go with me.

thatdamnJoe said:
but you certainly thought about it long and hard ;)
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php?t=140077
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Haha, yes, I think about things WAY too much.

thatdamnJoe said:
And please stop with the anarchistic little fusk society stuff. If it weren't for society(read civilization) we'd all still be in caves.
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Aw maaaaaan. But I love implanting these kinds of thoughts in the sheep...er... I mean impressionable young minds of the future :D

thatdamnJoe said:
I disagree completely. Animals go through life acting on instinct. You have a brain and you can control your emotions. Its what seperates man from beasts. You have a responsibility to society and to yourself to use it. Jails arent only there for punishment, they also serve as deterrents (or they're supposed to) and to remove dangerous individuals from society, so its as much about other people as it is about the offender.

I say again: you cant beat the ***** out of some guy whos dating your ex. If he was meddling in your relationship, you should have sorted it out then and there. And even then, if the guy didnt know the cheating girl had a bf does that make him liable?

If you're older than 18, chances are any girl you date has an ex. Do they now all have the right to beat the ***** out you?
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Cool with me. Lets go grab a beer and talk about it some more and I'll show you how much animal is in a human ;)

lol, right after I typed that I realized it could be miscontrued as a pass at you. I'm not gay. (Well it depends on how pretty you are ;) )
 
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