I think I'm stoopid...

[Juggy]

Which 50mm are you using?

I think your best bet is going to be an external microphone of some sort. They make some nice directional ones that mount on the hot shoe.

Canon 50mm f/1.4.

I don't think you can attach and external mic to the 60D. I haven't seen a socket for it on the camera

 

[bwana]

Canon 50mm f/1.4.

I don't think you can attach and external mic to the 60D. I haven't seen a socket for it on the camera

Surprised the 1.4 is that noisy.

There's a 3.5mm mic jack under the rubberised flap.

 

[Juggy]

Surprised the 1.4 is that noisy.

There's a 3.5mm mic jack under the rubberised flap.

Ah, I see it. I didn't look further that the shutter release, thanks

The 50mm hunts a bit as well so I wonder if there isn't a problem with it.

 

[bwana]

Ah, I see it. I didn't look further that the shutter release, thanks

The 50mm hunts a bit as well so I wonder if there isn't a problem with it.

When shooting stills or video?

 

[Juggy]

When shooting stills or video?

Video, is it normal? When I try focus it zooms out a bit then in a bit then sort of slowly steps into focus.

Maybe I should get a 17-85 for video rather than the prime.

Apart from that I think I have the video thing waxed. Just have to figure out why it comes out jittery. Considering dropping a wad of cash on a top of the range 32GB card so I'm sorted properly. As you mentioned earlier the video quality is staggering. I really am impressed with it. Just set it at f5.6 and point and shoot style video is pretty OK.

I can't seem to find a shotgun mic for this thing on the regular camera sites either.

 

[hilton]

Juggy, I think most people shoot video with 50m or less so that would make your zoom lens within spec so to speak. Maybe shoot with the heaviest lens you have?

I could have sworn I saw that mic on orms' website but it's poked at the moment. Plenty on amazon though.

 

[Juggy]

Juggy, I think most people shoot video with 50m or less so that would make your zoom lens within spec so to speak. Maybe shoot with the heaviest lens you have?

I could have sworn I saw that mic on orms' website but it's poked at the moment. Plenty on amazon though.

I was at Orms just now and they have a 17-85 for 3K. There is also a very nice Senheiser semi pro shotgun mic but it's R2899. I'm sure I can get somethnig cheaper.

 

[Juggy]

Ok, after a bit of looking around I might just go for something from B&H.

Can anyone give me advice as to which of the following would the the best?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/363083-REG/Rode_VIDEOMIC_VideoMic_Camera_Mounted.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/744768-REG/Rode_VIDEOMIC_PRO_VideoMic_Pro_Compact_Shotgun.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/534023-REG/Sennheiser_MKE_400_MKE_400_Compact_Video.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/518701-REG/Audio_Technica_PRO_24_CM_Pro_24CM_Stereo.html
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/3646-REG/Azden_ECZ_990_ECZ_990_Supercardioid_Shotgun_Mic.html

To be honest I'm not even sure if they will work on a camera or if there's any real difference between working on a DSLR camera and a video camera.

 

[hilton]

Spend some time looking through this nice article;

DSLR Camera Microphone for Videos - Buying Guide

 

[Juggy]

Spend some time looking through this nice article;

DSLR Camera Microphone for Videos - Buying Guide

Thanks Hilton, i will read through that tonight...

 

[Juggy]

Ok, after some looking around it appears a good entry level mic for my Canon camera is in fact the Nikon ME-1.

Will purchase and feedback, hopefully not from the mic

 

[hilton]

Why don't you do a review and post it on Youtube. It will good to hear the difference between the on-board mono mic and the new cough Nikon mic.

 

[Juggy]

Why don't you do a review and post it on Youtube. It will good to hear the difference between the on-board mono mic and the new cough Nikon mic.

Sjoe, I can try. I've never attempted anything like that before so might take a while.

What should my focus points be?

 

[hilton]

Well considering it's mainly sound related given your question about the mic, I don't think we're going to crit you over your Spielberg movie making ability.

So maybe shoot people talking over dinner with both mics and then perhaps outside somewhere and then in a noisy shopping mall.

Does this 'sound' feasible?

 

[Juggy]

Well considering it's mainly sound related given your question about the mic, I don't think we're going to crit you over your Spielberg movie making ability.

So maybe shoot people talking over dinner with both mics and then perhaps outside somewhere and then in a noisy shopping mall.

Does this 'sound' feasible?

Lol, yeah it does potentially sound possible. Just need to find the best deal and stock and I wll pick one up.

 

[reg identity]

what prime 50mm do you have? with the 1.8 the focus is quite slow compared to the 1.4 ( i actually gave my 1.8 away because i couldn't handle the focus being so slow and also that bloody scratching sound)! im using a 7D with a 17-40MM F4 L and a 24-105mm F4 L ,and never had any problems with the video, and technically the prime should work better!

 

[Juggy]

what prime 50mm do you have? with the 1.8 the focus is quite slow compared to the 1.4 ( i actually gave my 1.8 away because i couldn't handle the focus being so slow and also that bloody scratching sound)! im using a 7D with a 17-40MM F4 L and a 24-105mm F4 L ,and never had any problems with the video, and technically the prime should work better!

I have the 1.4 but still get scratching feedback.

 

[RanzB]

http://www.popphoto.com/news/2011/05/best-isos-shooting-video-canon-slrs

Andrew Schär put together this demonstration after reading a document calling for the use of ISOs that are multiples of 160 when shooting video with his Canon DSLR, which prompted him to test just how much the simulated ISOs in between full steps make a difference. Using his Canon 60D, he recorded a full range of ISOs, and found something that's pretty different to the assumed proportional relationship between ISO number and noise levels. His test showed that ISOs that were multiples of ISO 160 (160, 320, 640) were far and away the best, then the multiples of 100, and the multiples of 125 were muchworse.

Interestingly enough, it seems to me that ISO 640 has about as much noise as ISO 100.
It also seems that ISO multiples of 125 are specifically bad. ISO 1250 is pretty much comparable to IS0 125!

Try it on your DSLR.

Testing Canon's ISO noise in Video mode on the 60D from Andrew Schär on Vimeo.

One possible explanation is to do with which of these ISOs is native, and which simulated. Normally, the multiples of 100 are the standard ones, and to get the in between numbers you have to either increase or decrease the gain. Martin Zahuta commented on the original test, and summarized it well:

If you set the ISO at 125, there will be more noise than at ISO 100 because the camera sets the ISO at 100 and than simulates the higher ISO (125) by applying GAIN.

Similarly, when set at ISO 160, the camera actually already goes for ISO 200 and applies NEGATIVE GAIN, making the image darker and thus hiding a lot of the noise.

A good tip for a video-able DSLR.

 

[bwana]

http://www.popphoto.com/news/2011/05/best-isos-shooting-video-canon-slrs



A good tip for a video-able DSLR.

If it's actually the case. This post offers up another view. http://shootintheshot.joshsilfen.com/2010/05/13/canon-hd-dslr-native-iso/

 

[mfumbesi]

This sounds interesting, I'm contemplating a replacement for a 40D.
You struggles are my free education.