ICASA ADSL Hearing Feedback

Dianne from ICASA just phoned me. They want me to participate at the hearing despite my health conditions. She said they are taking care of everything. That looks to me as they are very serious about the whole issue. They want me to come because my of expierence from overseas I guess....
 
/me hands Celemasiko a handfull of pills

What experience do you have from overseas?
 
kaspaas said:
Telkom will fight not to reveal this.

If they do, they will be the laughing stock of the international telecoms community.

The questions are very valid - everybody would love Telkom to tell the world in public that they are ineffiecient.
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I didn't mean that Telkom would willingly divulge such information. But if we as a forum could form an idea of roughly how much each cost component could be, based on some research, then we could counter some of Telkom's usual vague arguments like "the local loop is expensive". If we had an idea of what the industry average cost per DSLAM port is, then we can start to win the argument. Otherwise Telkom will just make some statement about some unique South African circumstances being the reason for the high price of ADSL line rental.

A favourite trick of them is to deliberately confuse the costs of the international connectivity costs with the ADSL line rental costs. Telkom decided to introduce ADSL in SA on a similar model as Germany where ADSL line rental is charged separate from ISP costs. Yet when it suits them, they would quote high international connectivity costs in the context of ADSL line rental costs, hoping that no one would notice that the 2 have nothing to do with each other.
 
Thanks for the pills, I have swallowed them, but it makes me feel quite funny. I think I have to go out tonight...*ggg*

I only arrived from Germany two years ago (there with an uncapped, unshaped 2MB/384 ADSL connection for approx.250 Rand/month), I am a German national...retiring in the most beautiful spot on earth.
 
mystic said:
A favourite trick of them is to deliberately confuse the costs of the international connectivity costs with the ADSL line rental costs. Telkom decided to introduce ADSL in SA on a similar model as Germany where ADSL line rental is charged separate from ISP costs. Yet when it suits them, they would quote high international connectivity costs in the context of ADSL line rental costs, hoping that no one would notice that the 2 have nothing to do with each other.
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from the first of June onwards, German Telkom is offering a free 768/128 ADSL connection, if you are subscribing for a landline!!!!
 
lol I was just kidding ;)

Id never leave this country JUST for 'broadband'...
Thats too geeky :D
 
Celemasiko said:
from the first of June onwards, German Telkom is offering a free 768/128 ADSL connection, if you are subscribing for a landline!!!!
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Does one have to add an ISP charge to use the connection?

What would the typical total monthly cost for ADSL be?
 
The montly fees for a landline is approx. 9.90 Euros incl. 60 minutes free long distance calls. Local calls from 19.00 - 7.00 are free. Rental of a ADSL-Modem, Splitter and surge protector is about 7 Euros/month. You dont have to buy it.
If you go for this free ADSL offer from Telkom you have to stick with Telkom as an ISP. But no further costs involved.
 
Thanks guys the feedback has been great! My approach is going was to recommend something similar as to what has been mentioned about cheaper options etc.

However it will also focus on ICASA's support for introducing a third perhaps even a fourth fixed line provider to promote healthy competition. ITs pointless ICASA trying to tame a dog (telkom) that does not want to be tamed.
 
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From watching how ICASA was supposed to 'de-regulate' the process of starting local radio stations, to the point now where there's basically so much extra red tape, extra odd non-relevant regulations in place, and almost no new radio station licenses being granted anymore - (which means ICASA have done the exact OPPOSITE of what they were put in place to do, at least as far as the local radio industry goes) - it might be useful to keep this in mind when dealing with ICASA, and/or hoping for a simpler method of net access-distribution in future..
That said, I hope they spank Telkom thoroughly - (as long ICASA isn't planning to do to the internet biz what its done to the radio biz - namely slow it down, over-regulated it and legislate and price it out of the reach of mom n pop type startups..)
 
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