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ICASA: Monday 18 April
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Fieldy
Well-Known Member
Well done everybody that made contributions at the hearings. I would like to say a special well done to RPM for making MyADSL.co.za such a nice place to make our voices heard and for the great presentation at the hearings. Well done Antowan, BTTB and Debbie2 for your good work at the hearings. Good work to MaD and Helkom.co.za for fighting the good fight.
Hopefully with all our combined efforts from us, and industry leaders we can slay this Telkom Monster.
If something positive happens all members in each city should have a gathering somewhere, perhaps a braai and a few drinks to celebrate ?
Cheerz
Hopefully with all our combined efforts from us, and industry leaders we can slay this Telkom Monster.
If something positive happens all members in each city should have a gathering somewhere, perhaps a braai and a few drinks to celebrate ?
Cheerz
Karnaugh
Banned
Even Telkom are pushing for deregulation?
You're being ripped off - but all source point to this being the governments fault - not Telkoms.
Fieldy said:Well done everybody that made contributions at the hearings. I would like to say a special well done to RPM for making MyADSL.co.za such a nice place to make our voices heard and for the great presentation at the hearings. Well done Antowan, BTTB and Debbie2 for your good work at the hearings. Good work to MaD and Helkom.co.za for fighting the good fight.
Hopefully with all our combined efforts from us, and industry leaders we can slay this Telkom Monster.
If something positive happens all members in each city should have a gathering somewhere, perhaps a braai and a few drinks to celebrate ?
Cheerz
We'll have a big 'ol party when competition finally starts
martin
Expert Member
Very nicely done everyone.
Perhaps we should send ICASA a letter of thanks on behalf of the MyADSL community for their interest and the professional manner in which the hearing were conducted. Just about all the feedback from the hearing seems to suggest that is was handled very fairly.
Perhaps we should send ICASA a letter of thanks on behalf of the MyADSL community for their interest and the professional manner in which the hearing were conducted. Just about all the feedback from the hearing seems to suggest that is was handled very fairly.
Noble_Nanobot
Well-Known Member
And where the heck was Poison Ivy during these hearings 
?!?!?!? .... If she was'nt present or not even make a single comment about the hearings ... then her uselessness is beyond repair.
?!?!?!? .... If she was'nt present or not even make a single comment about the hearings ... then her uselessness is beyond repair.Debbie
Banned
ic,
I really didn't do much. No really, I didn't. I'm not an adsl user - so I didn't submit comments like the 446 people who did. I didn't do a presentation. All I did was call Telkom out on a minor issue.
Those who deserve praise are, of course, rpm, BTTB, Antowan, and everyone who presented at the hearings. Also, congratulations to those who submitted comments to ICASA - I certainly got the impression from ICASA that they simply could not believe the volume of submissions they received!
I really didn't do much. No really, I didn't. I'm not an adsl user - so I didn't submit comments like the 446 people who did. I didn't do a presentation. All I did was call Telkom out on a minor issue.
Those who deserve praise are, of course, rpm, BTTB, Antowan, and everyone who presented at the hearings. Also, congratulations to those who submitted comments to ICASA - I certainly got the impression from ICASA that they simply could not believe the volume of submissions they received!
bHOLDher
Well-Known Member
morebroadband said:
I just read a thread with links to websites about this an hour ago, somewhere around here... I guess somebody has submitted this written proof already?
LoneGunman
Expert Member
just a point in logic,
"Telkom said that the reason why they have line rental and the other countries don’t, is because they structured their product offering different."
So using that same logic structure:
"The reason why I kill people and others dont, is because I structured my attitude and morality differently"
"The reason why we choose to poison people in this country, and other countries choose not to, is because we made this decision to."
"The reason why we decided to break laws here, and other people in other countries don't break laws, is because we chose to do this."
On and on, endless variations are possible.
Point being: It 'sounds' like Logic, but I have to point out, that its a just a loop of self-sustaining Illogic which any law or logic student would probably be able to rip apart while laughing. It's not a logical, suitable or sane argument.
If Telkom (or its representatives) are honestly making these kind of statements to anyone with intellect, they are in deep trouble, as this is nonsensical and cannot be considered a valid Argument. Its a childlike use of Logic.
It'll be great if they're reduced to arguing like this, as justification for actions taken - as it means they're in trouble, and are trying to disguise this fact with faulty 'clever sounding' statements
"Telkom said that the reason why they have line rental and the other countries don’t, is because they structured their product offering different."
So using that same logic structure:
"The reason why I kill people and others dont, is because I structured my attitude and morality differently"
"The reason why we choose to poison people in this country, and other countries choose not to, is because we made this decision to."
"The reason why we decided to break laws here, and other people in other countries don't break laws, is because we chose to do this."
On and on, endless variations are possible.
Point being: It 'sounds' like Logic, but I have to point out, that its a just a loop of self-sustaining Illogic which any law or logic student would probably be able to rip apart while laughing. It's not a logical, suitable or sane argument.
If Telkom (or its representatives) are honestly making these kind of statements to anyone with intellect, they are in deep trouble, as this is nonsensical and cannot be considered a valid Argument. Its a childlike use of Logic.
It'll be great if they're reduced to arguing like this, as justification for actions taken - as it means they're in trouble, and are trying to disguise this fact with faulty 'clever sounding' statements
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Does anybody know how far Icasa's authority extends with regards to this hearing.
For instance, are they only allowed to Recommend that telskum impliment changes or do they have the authority to force changes based on the outcome of the hearing.
For instance, are they only allowed to Recommend that telskum impliment changes or do they have the authority to force changes based on the outcome of the hearing.