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So I see IFTTT finally did a "pro" version where you can do
• Multi-step applets
• Queries and conditional logic
• Multiple actions per applet
• Get faster Applet execution

This is great, except that they charge for it, and in my mind are years late.

What do you guys think? It is still one of the easier ways to link smart-home stuff together (and often the only way for some brands).
 
The thing you did not mention is that IFTTT was previously completely free for consumers, and now the free version has been capped at making 3 connections per user which is extremely limiting.

I think this was a rather sneaky move and a lot of people who used IFTTT for free without the need for these advanced protocols are very upset.

I unfortunately just got into home automation and had only created 5 connections on IFTTT before they capped the limit to 3. I now have to pay a monthly subscription just to make the 3 or 4 more connections I wanted to make before my home automations were complete.

The advanced multistep applets and conditional logic is nice but I haven't found a use for it yet, and most likely will not get my money's worth out of this pro subscription.
 
NabaDwA said:
I think this was a rather sneaky move and a lot of people who used IFTTT for free without the need for these advanced protocols are very upset.
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I see many app developers are going this route, some even shamelessly covert their paid app subscribers to renewal subscriptions.

IFTTT... I see it is pay what you want at the moment, but there is a minimum. I use Tasker, Automate and IFTTT, but I will see whether IFTTT is worth the sub, eventually it will increase like many other apps did. I don't want to become dependant, and then it becomes a expense than a need.

IFTTT says this is what everybody wanted... They should have rewarded their current user base with loyalty, allow some leniency than to limit them along with new on boarders. Everyone is crash test dummies nowadays.
 
Yeah I must say, their idea of consumer loyalty was giving them the right to choose their price but at a minimum of $2 a month. It's a bit of a stab in the back and I can see many of their users going to find alternatives.

They waited til they became the leader in the field, with the largest amount of Smart Companies registered with them, and then they hit their users with the fees when they are already all comfortable with their automations.

Very snakey I must say
 
I honestly missed the part where the free version is now capped. Pretty sucky!

Found IFTTT really limited before -- once tried to go the route of using external services to "keep variables" and then used webhooks to connect IFTTT to it and then to my smart bulbs / eWeLink etc.

But got complicated really fast and eventually, I just switched over to Home Assistant.
 
IMO if you can buy smart home equipment then you can fork out the pro subscription. It's literally less than R400 for the year.

Skip ordering takeout for 1 day for the year and your subscription is paid. Yes it sucks that it was free and now it isn't, but perhaps we should be thankful that it was free for so long for such a good product.
 
So who is taking IFTTT Pro on their "set your own price" deal?
$2 a month I guess isn't too bad -- at least until the backlash forces them to up the limit on the free applets .

I literally only have 4 that I would be really sorry to lose - both connecting Wyze cams to Home Assistant (we leave home - turn on the Wyze cams, we arrive back, turn off the Wyze cams. We open the baby room's door - turn off the wyze cam. We close the baby room's door - turn on the Wyze cam).

Here's hoping that more manufacturers create APIs to better integrate with open source solutions (wishful thinking!)
 
ebendl said:
So who is taking IFTTT Pro on their "set your own price" deal?
$2 a month I guess isn't too bad -- at least until the backlash forces them to up the limit on the free applets .

I literally only have 4 that I would be really sorry to lose - both connecting Wyze cams to Home Assistant (we leave home - turn on the Wyze cams, we arrive back, turn off the Wyze cams. We open the baby room's door - turn off the wyze cam. We close the baby room's door - turn on the Wyze cam).

Here's hoping that more manufacturers create APIs to better integrate with open source solutions (wishful thinking!)
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My problem isn't the subscription model per se, but once you start to subscribe to services it adds up, and when a subscription model is introduced once you are 'dependant' on it then it cycles you into change management. As I said, I would have appreciated some loyalty, but I see now they have come out and said once you set your price your are locked in.

To quote the email,

Set your price, forever

You spoke, we listened. No more confusion on the length of IFTTT Pro pricing. Set your price before October 7th and we’ll honor it, forever.
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which is a nice gesture, but they are rewarding new subscribers. I am going to subsribe.

My only problem is that I have seen this happen many times, especially on the Google Playstore and Google doesn't care unless it breaches their own system.
 
Hubitat hub, loving it, expensive to start and not for beginners but I love this device. I have Shelly devices, Sonoff devices, Samsung smartthings, contact sensors and motion sensors, I have Blitzwolf temp and humidity sensors, Led strip lights, Broadlink for infrared. I have a Z-Wave smoke alarm. So a varied mix and all this works on the Hubitat.
 
Greglsh said:
Hubitat hub, loving it, expensive to start and not for beginners but I love this device. I have Shelly devices, Sonoff devices, Samsung smartthings, contact sensors and motion sensors, I have Blitzwolf temp and humidity sensors, Led strip lights, Broadlink for infrared. I have a Z-Wave smoke alarm. So a varied mix and all this works on the Hubitat.
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Give us a breakdown of your setup if you don't mind?
Also where did you get the Blitzwolf temp and humidity sensors?
 
NabaDwA said:
The thing you did not mention is that IFTTT was previously completely free for consumers, and now the free version has been capped at making 3 connections per user which is extremely limiting.
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IFTTT has single-handedly pushed the Home Automation industry back a decade - without free, good, consumer-facing apps the technology won't get adopted, and thus it will become more expensive and/or die out.

Home assistance, yada yada can go suck a dick, the average consumer will never use it. So our only hope now is that a competitor will enter this space and take over from IFTTT
 
MDKza said:
Give us a breakdown of your setup if you don't mind?
Also where did you get the Blitzwolf temp and humidity sensors?
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Sorry long reply

So I have a Hubitat Hub (www.hubitat.com) This connects to my network via Ethernet cable. This hub support both Zigbee and Z-Wave (must buy the EU version as they have same Z-wave frequency as us). The all my light switches are the Sonoff TX (all flashed with Tasmota so that they work with the Hubitat) around 8 of them, some single gang other dual and triple. I have a Sonoff SV which controls my garage door (double), this uses a few presence and geo-fence detection's to work out if either myself or wife are coming home and by the time you get to the garage the door is already open. I have a Wemos D1 mini that is flashed with Tasmota and is linked to a ultrasonic sensor, this measures the distance form the garage ceiling to the floor and can work out if the car is already in the garage, if it is and I arrive home the garage wont open. I have at least 1 sometimes 2 motion sensors in each room to control the lights, all room's lights turn off after 2 min of no motion, I have 2 Xiaomi light sensors that measure how bright it is in 2 points of the house and the lights wont come on if it is still bright enough. I have Sonoff temperature/humidity sensors that monitor the temp in my chest freezer in the out building and send me a notification if the temperature rises by more than 5 degrees. I also monitor the temp of my server/computer cabinet with a Sonoff Temp/Humidity sensor, which turns on a fan when it gets to hot. I have contact sensors on front and back doors which turn on outside lights if opened after sunset. A contact sensor on the fridge door in case it gets left open. Each Bathroom is monitored with a Blitzwolf temp/humidity (battery operated), this I got from Banggood in China where I buy almost all my Sonoff devices. I also have a few Xiaomi motion sensors and buttons. This is so my 4 year old son, can turn the lights on himself if he need the toilet in the night, he either just walks in and they turn on or if he is in bed , he presses a Xiaomi button once and it turns his lamp on, the passage light and toilet and bathroom light on, it then turns off after 2 min of no motion in the toilet/bathroom. I can control the tv, Yamaha amp air-con etc though Hubitat if I want to. Also all this can also be done using voice commands on 5 Amazon Alexa devices. Even my 4 year old know how to turn lights on and how to add Chocolate to the shopping list :(
 
Thor said:
Home assistance, yada yada can go suck a dick, the average consumer will never use it. So our only hope now is that a competitor will enter this space and take over from IFTTT
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I did try Home Assistant about a year ago and had no idea what I was doing, the Hubitat is not as easy as say Samsung Smarthings, but it is easier than Home Assistant, for me anyway. With the Hubitat it is a lot of reading and joining the Hubitat community forums, then copying and pasting code from developers on github, or using the Hubitat package manager and it does all the work for you.
 
Greglsh said:
Sorry long reply

So I have a Hubitat Hub (www.hubitat.com) This connects to my network via Ethernet cable. This hub support both Zigbee and Z-Wave (must buy the EU version as they have same Z-wave frequency as us). The all my light switches are the Sonoff TX (all flashed with Tasmota so that they work with the Hubitat) around 8 of them, some single gang other dual and triple. I have a Sonoff SV which controls my garage door (double), this uses a few presence and geo-fence detection's to work out if either myself or wife are coming home and by the time you get to the garage the door is already open. I have a Wemos D1 mini that is flashed with Tasmota and is linked to a ultrasonic sensor, this measures the distance form the garage ceiling to the floor and can work out if the car is already in the garage, if it is and I arrive home the garage wont open. I have at least 1 sometimes 2 motion sensors in each room to control the lights, all room's lights turn off after 2 min of no motion, I have 2 Xiaomi light sensors that measure how bright it is in 2 points of the house and the lights wont come on if it is still bright enough. I have Sonoff temperature/humidity sensors that monitor the temp in my chest freezer in the out building and send me a notification if the temperature rises by more than 5 degrees. I also monitor the temp of my server/computer cabinet with a Sonoff Temp/Humidity sensor, which turns on a fan when it gets to hot. I have contact sensors on front and back doors which turn on outside lights if opened after sunset. A contact sensor on the fridge door in case it gets left open. Each Bathroom is monitored with a Blitzwolf temp/humidity (battery operated), this I got from Banggood in China where I buy almost all my Sonoff devices. I also have a few Xiaomi motion sensors and buttons. This is so my 4 year old son, can turn the lights on himself if he need the toilet in the night, he either just walks in and they turn on or if he is in bed , he presses a Xiaomi button once and it turns his lamp on, the passage light and toilet and bathroom light on, it then turns off after 2 min of no motion in the toilet/bathroom. I can control the tv, Yamaha amp air-con etc though Hubitat if I want to. Also all this can also be done using voice commands on 5 Amazon Alexa devices. Even my 4 year old know how to turn lights on and how to add Chocolate to the shopping list :(
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Paragraphs, but I love it.

I want to try the Sonoff Temp meters out (what does it look like in eWelink or are those also tosmato?

How did you wire it into your freezer? I would like to add one to my fridge and then modify the turn knob so I can increase or decrease it via an Arduino based on the feedback from the sonoff.
 
Thor said:
IFTTT has single-handedly pushed the Home Automation industry back a decade - without free, good, consumer-facing apps the technology won't get adopted, and thus it will become more expensive and/or die out.

Home assistance, yada yada can go suck a dick, the average consumer will never use it. So our only hope now is that a competitor will enter this space and take over from IFTTT
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What was IFTTT's revenue model? To be locked-in at $1.99 is very attractive.
 
Thor said:
Paragraphs, but I love it.

I want to try the Sonoff Temp meters out (what does it look like in eWelink or are those also tosmato?

How did you wire it into your freezer? I would like to add one to my fridge and then modify the turn knob so I can increase or decrease it via an Arduino based on the feedback from the sonoff.
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I have it stuck with double sided tape, to the side of the Freezer, then just have the temp probe run under the magnet on the lid. nothing fancy, as I said it is in an outbuilding so you don't see it, but I need to know if someone turns off the plug by mistake before I smell rotting meat :). All my Sonoff products run Tasmota.

Reason I went with this rather than a battery temp probe is just that, the battery life is a lot shorter in these cold conditions (-22 degrees). Also I don't want the battery to die and stop reporting. I have the Hubitat send me a message to my phone if the Sonoff has not "checked in" for 2 hours.
 
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IFTTT started charging, sonoff started charging... fortunately I can do pretty much everything I want via amazon or I'd be ripping these switches out of the walls.
 
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