Immigrating to the UK

JayM said:
Not sure about the first part and have scheduled a call with my account/tax specialist on Thursday to discuss (they are South African and deal extensively with cross border tax stuff).

I've asked them before about the "expat tax" and the UK/SA DTA nullifies it completely. It's only applicable for countries without a DTA and those where the DTA does not grant full taxing rights to the other state.
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You're right, I got it completely wrong :D Apologies
It is taxation based on residence regardless of source.

I found this in the DTA though:
Subject to the provisions of Articles 15, 17 and 18 of this Convention, salaries, wages and other similar remuneration derived by a resident of a Contracting State in respect of an employment shall be taxable only in that State unless the employment is exercised in the other Contracting State. If the employment is so exercised, such remuneration as is derived therefrom may be taxed in that other State.

I don't know what the definition of "exercised" is in this case - it may be relevant.
 
So for us laymen: does this all mean "you reside* in UK, you pay UK tax" even if the money comes from South Africa?

*SARS definition
 
I recall someone here posting about a good Saffa butcher in the Leeds area but for the love of me I can't find it. Looking for some Boerewors. Any idea what the place is called?
 
Hellbent if you want it delivered.

www.wearehellbent.co.uk

MEAT

Delicious culture collisions. The most awarded Boerewors in Ireland and the UK
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www.bbc.co.uk

British man acquitted over London-Spain flight bomb hoax

A judge ruled that Aditya Verma's message, from 2022, about "blowing up" a plane was not a real threat.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

Aditya Verma admitted he told friends in July 2022: "On my way to blow up the plane. I'm a member of the Taliban."
But he said he had made the joke in a private Snapchat group and never intended to "cause public distress".
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The message he sent to friends, before boarding the plane, went on to be picked up by UK security services. They then flagged it to Spanish authorities while the easyJet plane was still in the air.
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Two Spanish F-18 fighter jets were sent to flank the aircraft. One followed the plane until it landed at Menorca, where the plane was searched.
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prod said:
www.bbc.co.uk

British man acquitted over London-Spain flight bomb hoax

A judge ruled that Aditya Verma's message, from 2022, about "blowing up" a plane was not a real threat.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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There was a thread, it seems Snapchat don’t like those sort of jokes and reported him (in almost real time).

British-Indian man who threatened to blow up plane acquitted by Spanish court

London, Jan 27 (PTI) A Spanish court has acquitted a British-Indian man of public disorder after he joked to friends about being a member of the Taliban and planning to blow up a flight from London's Gatwick to Menorca in Spain in 2022. Aditya Verma admitted to telling his friends in July...
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Dave said:
There was a thread, it seems Snapchat don’t like those sort of jokes and reported him (in almost real time).

British-Indian man who threatened to blow up plane acquitted by Spanish court

London, Jan 27 (PTI) A Spanish court has acquitted a British-Indian man of public disorder after he joked to friends about being a member of the Taliban and planning to blow up a flight from London's Gatwick to Menorca in Spain in 2022. Aditya Verma admitted to telling his friends in July...
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Ah, did a quick search but didn't find anything! Ta
 
JayM said:
I have a tax question for people who may have been in a similar position. I own an SA company through which I do consulting to various clients. I'll be leaving for the UK in about a month and I'd like to keep the company and exercise the DTA so I don't get taxed twice.

Is there any way I can pay myself in the UK that isn't going to fall foul of SARS or SARB? This is a stop-gap solution until I can pick up a decent UK contract.
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I was paid by South African company while living in UK, the payroll was in SA. My SA tax status was non-resident. I had to pay tax to SARS as the source of the income was SA as reflected on my IRP5. I disputed this but SARS would not budge as the income was sourced in SA, that's the law and I actually found the legislation governing it.
 
AdrianH said:
I was paid by South African company while living in UK, the payroll was in SA. My SA tax status was non-resident. I had to pay tax to SARS as the source of the income was SA as reflected on my IRP5. I disputed this but SARS would not budge as the income was sourced in SA, that's the law and I actually found the legislation governing it.
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What did HMRC have to say about that? Give you credit for foreign tax paid?
 
Today marks 1 month since we have arrived in the UK.

We are currently staying in Guildford with the long term intention to relocate to North West London.

Guildford is a beautiful part of the country and the people are really friendly.

Not worrying about loadshedding or constantly looking over my shoulder has been great too.

The single biggest challenge that I have been facing is finding work. I am a qualified attorney with 10 years experience in SA. I have recently done the conversion and have qualified as a solicitor of England and Wales.

Although I have applied for a number of jobs as a solicitor, I haven't been able to secure any interviews. I am assuming that the lack of UK experience is hurting my prospects. I have been dealing with some recruiters but, for the most part, they haven't been particularly helpful.

Has anyone in the legal field come over recently and gone through something similar? I would appreciate any insight/tips regarding finding a role.
 
x32 said:
Today marks 1 month since we have arrived in the UK.

We are currently staying in Guildford with the long term intention to relocate to North West London.

Guildford is a beautiful part of the country and the people are really friendly.

Not worrying about loadshedding or constantly looking over my shoulder has been great too.

The single biggest challenge that I have been facing is finding work. I am a qualified attorney with 10 years experience in SA. I have recently done the conversion and have qualified as a solicitor of England and Wales.

Although I have applied for a number of jobs as a solicitor, I haven't been able to secure any interviews. I am assuming that the lack of UK experience is hurting my prospects. I have been dealing with some recruiters but, for the most part, they haven't been particularly helpful.

Has anyone in the legal field come over recently and gone through something similar? I would appreciate any insight/tips regarding finding a role.
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Welcome to Surrey, check PM
 
x32 said:
Today marks 1 month since we have arrived in the UK.

We are currently staying in Guildford with the long term intention to relocate to North West London.

Guildford is a beautiful part of the country and the people are really friendly.

Not worrying about loadshedding or constantly looking over my shoulder has been great too.

The single biggest challenge that I have been facing is finding work. I am a qualified attorney with 10 years experience in SA. I have recently done the conversion and have qualified as a solicitor of England and Wales.

Although I have applied for a number of jobs as a solicitor, I haven't been able to secure any interviews. I am assuming that the lack of UK experience is hurting my prospects. I have been dealing with some recruiters but, for the most part, they haven't been particularly helpful.

Has anyone in the legal field come over recently and gone through something similar? I would appreciate any insight/tips regarding finding a role.
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Hi and welcome.

My wife is a registered attorney in SA, never did the course to become recognised in UK. As she was involved in insurance for many years in SA working for ABSA. She was fortunate to find jobs quite easily here, even to the point the last job she was head hunted by a large international insurance company. Unfortunately I don't have any advice though but maybe you have legal experience in specific industries where you can get a job. Also, nothing wrong getting a intermediate job at Tesco or ASDA, I think the minimum rate is £11 per hour come April.

Also, what freak are you arriving in UK during the worst weather of the year

PS: Have you registered on the voting roll, have a phone account yet, registered at credit bureaus, take out a "loan" at Loqbox to start gaining credit history?
 
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AdrianH said:
Hi and welcome.

My wife is a registered attorney in SA, never did the course to become recognised in UK. As she was involved in insurance for many years in SA working for ABSA. She was fortunate to find jobs quite easily here, even to the point the last job she was head hunted by a large international insurance company. Unfortunately I don't have any advice though but maybe you have legal experience in specific industries where you can get a job. Also, nothing wrong getting a intermediate job at Tesco or ASDA, I think the minimum rate is £11 per hour come April.

Also, what freak are you arriving in SA during the worst weather of the year

PS: Have you registered on the voting roll, have a phone account yet, registered at credit bureaus, take out a "loan" at Loqbox to start gaining credit history?
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Thanks man.

The weather was a major adjustment. Especially the sun setting at 16h00 and only rising at 08h30 the next day.

On the plus side, we are through the worst of it and the days are slowly getting longer.

I've gotten a phone account but haven't done the other stuff yet. Can I register on the voting roll even if I am not a citizen? I am here on a spousal visa.
 
x32 said:
Thanks man.

The weather was a major adjustment. Especially the sun setting at 16h00 and only rising at 08h30 the next day.

On the plus side, we are through the worst of it and the days are slowly getting longer.

I've gotten a phone account but haven't done the other stuff yet. Can I register on the voting roll even if I am not a citizen? I am here on a spousal visa.
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Yes you can. You need to live here and be a citizen of a commonwealth country, which SA is.
Swap your drivers license as well. It's convenient ID and proof of address.
 
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Sinbad said:
Yes you can. You need to live here and be a citizen of a commonwealth country, which SA is.
Swap your drivers license as well. It's convenient ID and proof of address.
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Thanks. Driver's done at least. My SA license was close to expiring so it was one of the first things I did after collecting my British Residence permit
 
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