Infinitcall cancelled?

hArTh · Oct 25, 2004

RPM.

Sorry, I don't often fly off the handle. I takes quite a lot to make me pop.

In the interests of maintaining a common front against the enemy I retract my personal comments.

But myself and Karnaugh had better play on different ends of the playground from now on.

-Information anarchist-
www.sentechhatesfreespeech.org.za
I support:
www.hellkom.co.za
www.poopband.co.za

LethalChicken · Oct 25, 2004

not to belittle anybodys opinions .. but if you guys want to see REAL drama queens and kiddie temper you should look at www.webhostingtalk.com ... I don't think I have every seen a bigger bunch of whiners ... and I've seen a lot of whiners in my life [

]

And to get back to this thread I don't think that people getting upset every now and again is a bad thing, it's just that everybody must realize that this is an open forum and everyone is entitled to their opinion .. otherwise rpm can close open posts and moderate everthing that anybody posts .... I'm sure he'd LOVE to do that [

]

We are Telkom - Resistance is Futile - You will be Assimilated

MaD · Oct 25, 2004

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Having said this, while MaD may not be the most tactful and diplomatic person you'll ever meet<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
I beg to differ! [

] I'm fair when fairness is warranted.. if someone gets nasty I'm not just gonna sit back and take it.. a typical South African oke [

] Karnaugh, you ain't getting an apology mate.. not in a million years.

BTW this is how it started, after lots of inactivity Karnaugh enters the conversation:
<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">
[23:12:30] <Karnaugh> thats because its utter tripe?
[23:12:42] <Karnaugh> agh wtf
[23:12:54] <Karnaugh> [20:31:11] <@mad> its not like telkoms gonna freakin broadcast it
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Okkeeeeeee.. and now for something completely different.. back to the thread perhaps? [

]

Where others have progress, we have Telkom.
Hellkom website - www.hellkom.co.za

hArTh · Oct 25, 2004

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by BlobNow
 ... and I've seen a lot of whiners in my life [

]

We are Telkom - Resistance is Futile - You will be Assimilated
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Behind the bicycle shed this afternoon after school.

Bring a baggie for your teeth [}

]

-Information anarchist-
www.sentechhatesfreespeech.org.za
I support:
www.hellkom.co.za
www.poopband.co.za

nocilah · Oct 25, 2004

gawdamn... why dont we have this much fun on the sentech forum?

Anyway Telkom are good at that kinda stuff... They still owe me some discount from ages ago about some special which also mysteriously dissappeared....

myWireless 128, 64, 48, 16 - depends on its mood.

Perdition · Oct 26, 2004

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by MaD
 I beg to differ! [

] I'm fair when fairness is warranted.. if someone gets nasty I'm not just gonna sit back and take it.. a typical South African oke [

]
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Ok MaD fair enough, I haven't met you in person and generally on this forum we only discuss issues which are not fair [

]

Also sometimes tact and diplomacy don't work (especially with Telkom) and it's time to take off the gloves!

Karnaugh · Oct 26, 2004

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Your posts used to be informative and interesting but now you seem to take personal issue with everyone and everything.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I did not take a personal issue with anyone. MaD created a totally unfounded rumour - that's bad journalism, and just sensationalism and I got quite tired of people on every single channel in IRC passing it on. It's easy to attack InfinitCall and create a rumour making everyone get all upset etc - especialy when you run "Hellkom" and are expected to know what is right and behave proffesionaly etc.

Of course as usual I was only met with insults and personal attacks when I pointed this out - I simply asked for an appology - since i was infact right as you can see.

If people here - and on other sites, can not at least behave in a mature and proffesional way as RPM does, then they will not be taken seriously and I for one will not be associated with it.

antowan · Oct 26, 2004

RPM is right and we need to fight the issue and not the person. In other words, play the ball not the man. As far as the R7 capped call service is concerned, I think we need to accept that Telkom is known for spreading disinformation before launching or dumping a service offering. Let’s wait and see. Personally I noticed that whenever there are rumors flying about over Telkom, they are usually true...

Cheers
Antowan

### What we need in South Africa is cheap 24/7, always on Internet for under R300 a month. ###

MaD · Oct 26, 2004

Originally posted by Karnaugh

I did not take a personal issue with anyone.
- Yup you did, you've had it in for me since I said I'm not going to host Hellkom with you.. remember???

MaD created a totally unfounded rumour - that's bad journalism, and just sensationalism and I got quite tired of people on every single channel in IRC passing it on.
- I didn't create the rumour - I heard about it and called Telkom and visited their site to look for the service which is now gone.

It's easy to attack InfinitCall and create a rumour making everyone get all upset etc - especialy when you run "Hellkom" and are expected to know what is right and behave proffesionaly etc.
- I didn't start a rumour, it was there already, since Saturday, pay more attention in the IRC channels.

Of course as usual I was only met with insults and personal attacks when I pointed this out - I simply asked for an appology - since i was infact right as you can see. 
- Personal attacks? Mate, if you started the conversation normallyy instead of "Argh" and "what the ****" you would most likely have had a decent conversation. You have no place to ask for an apology, it's absurd even asking for one, who do you think you are?

If people here - and on other sites, can not at least behave in a mature and proffesional way as RPM does, then they will not be taken seriously and I for one will not be associated with it.
- Stop being so melodramatic. Although at your age I suppose I was as well.. in a few years you will be more mature and say balanced things, hopefully. You always want to take the moral high ground, which says a lot about you.

It looks like you provoke people for a reaction and I must say you've done a good job. Perhaps try taking someone on in real life and see what happens.. its very easy sitting behind a screen writing rubbish. You could maybe get out a bit more.. go for a walk, get some fresh air, take some photos.. its quite relaxing.

Where others have progress, we have Telkom.
Hellkom website - www.hellkom.co.za

antowan · Oct 26, 2004

Good day folks

If this topic does not get back on track in terms of discussing the issue instead of getting personal, it will be locked. Please focus on the issue. We all care about Internet in South Africa, lets focus on that...

Regards
Antowan

### What we need in South Africa is cheap 24/7, always on Internet for under R300 a month. ###

MaD · Oct 26, 2004

I'm awaiting Ravin's reply so will pop it here when received.. maybe should resend, sent it yesterday morning already..

Where others have progress, we have Telkom.
Hellkom website - www.hellkom.co.za

doekvoet · Oct 26, 2004

I confirmed at a Telkom Customer Service Branch today that Infinite call has not been withdrawn and is still available to anyone who applies for it.

Telkom apparently is not marketing this product actively no more as too many subscribers use this for internet access. When stating to a Telkom employee that you wish to use this for internet, it is their job to offer the internet packages to you.

But..the product is still available...............

MaD · Oct 26, 2004

Ja, its quite confusing, two Telkom people Ive talked with have said that 'Telkom is phasing InfinitCall out and will be replacing it with SurfAnytime and ADSL'.. I called yesterday and the gent stated that 'Goodness no, InfinitCall is very much available'.

This is supposed to be the link to InfinitCall:
http://www.telkom.co.za/portal/page?_pageid=554,72063&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL&paramURL=/pls/portal/docs/page/products/infinitcall.jsp&prod=InfinitCall

as said by the Telkom site search. Content not found, so the product page has disappeared. Does seem they could be pushing SurfMore, SurfAnytime and ADSL instead of it.. probably understandably.

Where others have progress, we have Telkom.
Hellkom website - www.hellkom.co.za

Strobemeister · Oct 26, 2004

Today i enquired about costing for adsl on behalf of one of our subscribers, and during the course of the call i enquired about these rumours.
I was expecting/hoping for denial, or, as is usually the norm, ignorance, but all i got were cagey answers, mum's the word type of stuff. So, imho, something's definitely on the cards.
eish.

Telkom - South Africa's Handbrake to progress.

LethalChicken · Oct 26, 2004

Yeah .. they are going to phase out InfiniCall .. so everyone goes to ADSL and then they will cut the speed in hald give us a 1GB Cap ... and double the price ...

We are Telkom - Resistance is Futile - You will be Assimilated

ajax · Oct 27, 2004

I don't understand why they did not prohibit Infinitcall from being used for internet access when they launched the product? Surely they should've known? Xtratime for example can't be used for internet access, unless one can find a telephone number that Telkom does not know is an ISP number [}

]

On a different note, I see Telkom has started to incorporate the SNO in their terms and conditions:
From http://www.telkom.co.za/portal/page?_pageid=554,72063&_dad=portal&_schema=PORTAL&paramURL=/pls/portal/docs/page/products/xtratime.jsp
# XtraTime minutes will not apply to:

* ISPs/Internet calls
* Smart Access and Premium rate numbers (e.g. 086, 080)
* Cellular phone numbers (e.g. 08 & 07)
* Special numbers (e.g. 1023)
* Operator Assisted calls
* International mobile numbers
* Calls terminated on the SNO's (Second Network Operator's) network

We can probably expect the last item on all their other products pretty soon.

FuLL_MeT4L · Oct 27, 2004

ne1 got ne updates on da Infint Call dilemma?

antowan · Oct 27, 2004

Hi just a quick Q. Anybody here agree that we need flatrated dialup in SA for the masses? In other words a central number for each ISP which can be dialed without per minute charges?

Regards
Antowan
PS I am talking about 56k here....

### What we need in South Africa is cheap 24/7, always on Internet for under R300 a month. ###

MaD · Oct 27, 2004

OK I have received a reply from Ravin Maharaj, Telkom's spokesperson, about the InfinitCall rumour. Ravin says that InfinitCall is still available although Telkom has several other packages which are currently being promoted, especially SurfAnytime and SurfMore. Will add a note on the site to that effect as well.

I will also mail the Telkom webmaster and mention that it's disappeared from their products page, and that the link which is configured for InfinitCall as in the Search Results is kaput.

Where others have progress, we have Telkom.
Hellkom website - www.hellkom.co.za

Perdition · Oct 27, 2004

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by MaD
 I will also mail the Telkom webmaster and mention that it's disappeared from their products page, and that the link which is configured for InfinitCall as in the Search Results is kaput.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

I don't think this was by accident so I'll be surprised if they fix it.

Join the MyBroadband community

Get started

Infinitcall cancelled?

Expert Member

Expert Member

Expert Member

Expert Member

Banned

Expert Member

Banned

Honorary Master

Expert Member

Honorary Master

Expert Member

Well-Known Member

Expert Member

Expert Member

Expert Member

Executive Member

Expert Member

Honorary Master

Expert Member

Expert Member