Intel 9th-Gen vs AMD Ryzen 2000 - South African pricing

[Jamie McKane]

Intel 9th-Gen vs AMD Ryzen 2000 - South African pricing

Intel and AMD continue to compete for the high-end PC market with their latest powerful desktop processors.

AMD's second-generation of Ryzen processors are now available, offering increased efficiency and higher core counts than ever before.

 

[sajunky]

The only factor destroying my interest in Ryzen 3/5 is that G version is a crippled in Multi-Threaded performance comparing to non-G and to the Intel CPU's, but Intel CPU's from the table are not those that can directly compete in pricing.

Also remember that many 9th-Gen Intel CPU's are not Spectre and Meltdown free, you should double check before buying. I don't want my system to slowdown again after applying new software patches.

 

[genetic]

Also remember that many 9th-Gen Intel CPU's are not Spectre and Meltdown free, you should double check before buying. I don't want my system to slowdown again after applying new software patches.

Rubbish. Did you actually notice any performance loss? I never noticed squat on my 8700K, and I do heavy video editing and rendering. Also AMD's were affected too. My synthetic benchmarks didn't change either. I actually hit my highest Cinebench score in November without changing my overclock settings whatsoever.

New processors aren't as badly affected by Spectre and Meltdown as older gen CPU's.

Not all processors are affected the same way. A good general rule: the newer your processor, the less affected you’ll probably be, especially with Intel. Your mileage may vary with AMDs and ARMs.

Not all operating systems are affected the same way. Windows 7 and 8 may be the worst hit (if Microsoft’s initial estimates hold true), while Windows 10 doesn’t see noticeable impacts

https://www.maketecheasier.com/meltdown-spectre-patches-arent-slowing-computer-down/

 

[sajunky]

Rubbish. Did you actually notice any performance loss? I never noticed squat on my 8700K, and I do heavy video editing and rendering. Also AMD's were affected too.

New processors aren't as badly affected by Spectre and Meltdown as older gen CPU's.

Not a rubbish, it is a first thing. I saw articles like that, they are weak. Secondly I wrote "not Spectre/Meltdown free". You are using different words meaning is completely different. When I do say 'free' it means there are not vulnerable and do not need software patches. This is what I want when chosing a new CPU.

 

[genetic]

Not a rubbish, it is a first thing. I saw articles like that, they are weak. Secondly I wrote "not Spectre/Meltdown free". You are using different words meaning is completely different. When I do say 'free' it means there are not vulnerable and do not need software patches. This is what I want when chosing a new CPU.

You're shifting your goal posts;

I don't want my system to slowdown again after applying new software patches.

I ask again, how did YOUR system slow down?

Later gen Intel CPU's don't suffer slow downs. Your claims are unsubstantiated.

Here's proof.

My realbench result on 6 February 2018;




Then after the Spectre/Meltdown patch fixes and what-not on the 11th of July;



A marked improvement in performance. This is obviously due to software, driver and BIOS updates over time, but nowhere did my performance become worse, or my machine slow down.

 

[DrJohnZoidberg]

The Spectre + Meltdown patches only really affect performance in specific workloads: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12566/analyzing-meltdown-spectre-perf-impact-on-intel-nuc7i7bnh/4

 

[sajunky]

The Spectre + Meltdown patches only really affect performance in specific workloads: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12566/analyzing-meltdown-spectre-perf-impact-on-intel-nuc7i7bnh/4

Yep, this is more close to the truth. Patches hit the most applications with lot of I/O operations or other requiring frequent kernel switching. Unfortunatly they didn't test how system performs in low memory condition where lot of disk swapping is done. I noticed some 30% performance hit on low-powered (or overloaded - more frequent) systems. The same analysis should be done for testing performance of virtual machines.

In addition to the above, when new Spectre/Meltdown variants are discovered, new patches are required. Ignoring known vulnerabilities and depending on software patches it is like playing with fire.

It is why when looking for a new CPU, a "free of Spectre/Meltdown" parameter is on my priority list.