Intel disaster.

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Boys, what the hell is going on with Intel, apparently the 13th + 14th generation is a disaster, oxidation issues (RUST!!!!) causing crashing, that's across two generations...

Even more alarming is it's a practice to put these into server roles as well because of excellent single core speeds.

How much you want to bet markets like South Africa is suddenly going to experience huge offloading of this stock and great "deals".

NOT a fanboy thread, I've been using Ryzen for a few years now but every Intel I've owned has been bulletproof. I don't think my thread title is hyperbolic this sounds like a moerse problem.

@Jan I think the issue is sufficiently in the global spotlight now to actually bring some attention to it, especially with regards to giving local businesses a heads up so we don't get waves of importers taking advantage of local ignorance here.

Intel stock value hit a 50 year low, and they're looking to retrench over 15 000 non-manufacturing related people, they even cutting catering budget. :(

 
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What is the actual issue, oxidation where?
 
airborne said:
What is the actual issue, oxidation where?
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Contamination during fabrication causes a oxidation in operation which screws up CPUs eventually. CPU manufacturing am hard.

Youtube the GamersNexus videos covering the topic if you want to get into the weeds, but bottom line anyone trying to dump 13th/14th stock on you right now is a scumbag.
 
airborne said:
What is the actual issue, oxidation where?
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In summary:

  • Oxidation issue: Some early Intel Core 13th generation desktop processors were affected by oxidation during the manufacturing process. This could lead to corrosion, instability, and potentially even chip failure.
  • Voltage issue: Elevated operating voltage was causing instability issues in some 13th and 14th generation desktop processors. This was due to a microcode algorithm that resulted in incorrect voltage requests to the processor.
  • Microcode patch: Intel is releasing a microcode patch that addresses the root cause of exposure to elevated voltages. This patch is expected to be released to partners in mid-August.
  • Lack of transparency: Intel has been criticized for its lack of transparency regarding these issues. The company initially attributed the root cause of the instability issues solely to voltage and did not mention the oxidation issue.
  • Impact on customers: The oxidation and voltage issues could potentially affect a large number of Intel Core 13th and 14th generation desktop processors. Customers who are experiencing instability issues should contact Intel customer support for further assistance.
  • Unclear support plans: Intel has not yet provided clear details about how it will support customers who are affected by these issues. The company has only stated that it is committed to making things right with its customers.
  • Oxidation issue: Intel acknowledged an oxidation issue with inconsistent language and seemed to downplay the problem.
  • AMA Debacle: Intel missed an AMA and then silently deleted the announcement, later posting a public apology.
  • Warranty Extension: Intel suggested RMA'ing defective devices multiple times before eventually extending warranties for some processors.
  • Changing Statements: Intel's statements about affected processors and support options have changed multiple times.
  • Subterfuge: Intel's actions, like deleting comments and blocking accounts, suggest an attempt to avoid accountability.
  • Customer Disregard: Intel's suggested solutions, like RMA'ing devices multiple times, show a disregard for customer inconvenience.
 
DrJohnZoidberg said:
Oxidation is not there real story here, that only affected some 13th gen CPUs anyway. The bigger issue is apparently bad microcode causing excessive voltages which is degrading the chips at an alarming rate.
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OK so for the sake of keeping things clear and actually protecting local businesses let's supply any hot takes to the contrary with sources etc.
 
Have any local retailers or suppliers actually communicated about the issue?
 
I'm hoping my 14th gen i9 doesn't cook up on me anytime soon...bloody thing cost a good bit.
 
Aghori said:
I'm hoping my 14th gen i9 doesn't cook up on me anytime soon...bloody thing cost a good bit.
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They should bite the bullet and upgrade people with 14th with whatever 15th would be IMO. But who knows how much something like that would cost them. And you're right these big CPUs are bloody expensive!

Eish but then what will people do with motherboards meant for 14th... they'd have to make 15th the same slot as 14th in that case.
 
Faux_Grey said:
Microcode patch: Intel is releasing a microcode patch that addresses the root cause of exposure to elevated voltages. This patch is expected to be released to partners in mid-August.
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Just a note on this one. CPUs which are already damaged, though not immediately experienced, won't be remedied by the patch. Intel won't do a recall, or at least one hasn't been announced.

For those who already have these CPUs, which could be damaged, have no real recourse. The damage could potentially only start to show when the warranty has lapsed.

Neither do we know whether the microcode patch will be an actual remedy or simply mitigate the issue, or whether it will even work.
 
s0lar said:
Long live AyeMD!

/fanboi cheer
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That video is right though we consumers (private/business) lose if competition in markets loses. Big reason why AMD is nice I think is because they had a fire lit under their butts with Intel doing well, now it's murky.
 
Fulcrum29 said:
Just a note on this one. CPUs which are already damaged, though not immediately experienced, won't be remedied by the patch. Intel won't do a recall, or at least one hasn't been announced.

For those who already have these CPUs, which could be damaged, have no real recourse. The damage could potentially only start to show when the warranty has lapsed.

Neither do we know whether the microcode patch will be an actual remedy or simply mitigate the issue, or whether it will even work.
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The GN videos are really worth a watch and go in detail about how long these issues have actually been reported on (2+ years)

 
Faux_Grey said:
The GN videos are really worth a watch and go in detail about how long these issues have actually been reported on (2+ years)

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At least Intel did extend their warranty on these CPUs. There is extended coverage should the issue show at that time when the latest microcode is applied.
 
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