Intel's third generation SSD

How the hell do you get 'fail' out of that?

Wow, just wow at the op.

In reality, the Intel SSD 510 may not be the fastest SATA SSD we've ever tested, but it comes very close. Overall performance is within striking distance of the Vertex 3 and depending on the test, performance can actually be a little higher than the clever competitor.
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I've actually expected that the Intel SSD would be way faster/better than the Vertex 3, seeing that they used a smaller die and made all those predictions, etc.

The drive is still incredibly fast. I'll still buy one instead of the Vertex 3 if the price is way below it.
 
HTC_guy said:
Im gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and say you know nothing about SSD's and the key performance areas

go read the article again and we can chat

:p
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You're going to bleat about 4K performance, while being unable to understand how insignificant it is in regards to the performance requirements for consumer oriented drives versus enterprise drives.
 
Pada said:
I've actually expected that the Intel SSD would be way faster/better than the Vertex 3, seeing that they used a smaller die and made all those predictions, etc.

The drive is still incredibly fast. I'll still buy one instead of the Vertex 3 if the price is way below it.
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I was hoping it would be faster than the Vertex 3, although I'm MORRRRRRRRRRE than happy with my Intel X25-M G2 :)

I like it so much I'm thinking of giving it to my brother :D
 
I am also very dissapointed in the new Intel SSD's...
If you look at their past releases... the G1's and G2's dominated the market with their awsome performance.

The fact is... this SSD came out along the same timelines as the SF2000 controller based SSD's. So its fair to compare them with the current models.
There was a lot of hype and high expectations for this new SSD, but sadly unless the price is not a lot cheaper, I dont see people flocking to go and buy them... well unless they are totally clueless when it comes to hardware for that matter.
I have a intel SSD and a Sandforce based SSD... I know which one will be my next one...
 
Rudimental said:
You're going to bleat about 4K performance, while being unable to understand how insignificant it is in regards to the performance requirements for consumer oriented drives versus enterprise drives.
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quite right

My biggest complaints about the 510 actually aren't about Intel's use of a 3rd party controller, instead they are about the drive's lackluster random read performance. In a horrible bout of irony Intel fixed its sequential performance and moved backwards in the random department. Random read performance, as it turns out, has a pretty major impact in the real world.
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Most people dont care how fast you can copy a 10GB file. Okay they might CARE, but most users care MORE about real world experience, and random read is real world.

sequential isnt where a SSD shines, its the random... and the fact that they have
moved backwards in the random department
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is enough to constitute this drive as a fail
 
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Pornolio said:
I am also very dissapointed in the new Intel SSD's...
If you look at their past releases... the G1's and G2's dominated the market with their awsome performance.

The fact is... this SSD came out along the same timelines as the SF2000 controller based SSD's. So its fair to compare them with the current models.
There was a lot of hype and high expectations for this new SSD, but sadly unless the price is not a lot cheaper, I dont see people flocking to go and buy them... well unless they are totally clueless when it comes to hardware for that matter.
I have a intel SSD and a Sandforce based SSD... I know which one will be my next one...
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thank you, someone who knows what he's talking about....
 
Vertex 3 for me. Will be nice upgrade from my Vertex 2 when it lands here.
 
Rudimental said:
You're going to bleat about 4K performance, while being unable to understand how insignificant it is in regards to the performance requirements for consumer oriented drives versus enterprise drives.
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In the real world we do not sit copying 5gb files all day now do we? So depending on the use the 4k performance is very important.
 
HTC_guy said:
Most people dont care how fast you can copy a 10GB file. Okay they might CARE, but most users care MORE about real world experience, and random read is real world.

sequential isnt where a SSD shines, its the random... and the fact that they have is enough to constitute this drive as a fail
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Random reads do have an impact, and this is where I agree that it is slightly lacklustre, but if you compare the real world performance tests then you will see that it is not that important. The Vertex 3 has a 4-6x faster random write speed and a 2x faster random read speed, and yet the Intel has 93% of the throughput in the real-world heavy usage test and 83% of the throughput on the light usage test. The Vertex 3 also has faster sequential r/w (for compressible data), meaning that not all of this difference is the result of random r/w performance.

You'll see exactly the same thing in Corsair's new Performance 3 Series, also based on the Marvell controller. Both are trading random r/w for sequential speed, because for consumer performance, random read/write does not make that big of a difference. Sure, it does make a difference, and no-one is doubting that the Vertex 3 is faster in almost every department, but that does not make this drive a failure. It is a solid drive that is no doubt going to trade off of the perception of Intel's drives as being extremely reliable.
 
I agree with the OP that Intel has slightly failed but only in terms of price. It shouldn't be more than R2.5k for the 120GB and the older gen 160GB should be at about 3k if you ask me..
 
nakedpeanut said:
I agree with the OP that Intel has slightly failed but only in terms of price. It shouldn't be more than R2.5k for the 120GB and the older gen 160GB should be at about 3k if you ask me..
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Agree. The tech is still new I guess, but I thought the prices would start dropping by now. There's no way I could justify buying a 120GB drive that costs more than 3k.... no matter how fast it is.
 
HTC_guy said:
:confused:
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The numbers are right there in the very article you linked. Huge discrepancies in small block r/w speeds lead to relatively small effects in real-world testing. Perhaps you have some answer, rather than just displaying slack-jawed incredulity when someone points out this fact?
 
Rudimental said:
The numbers are right there in the very article you linked. Huge discrepancies in small block r/w speeds lead to relatively small effects in real-world testing. Perhaps you have some answer, rather than just displaying slack-jawed incredulity when someone points out this fact?
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are you high? :wtf:

if Intel release a new CPU, based on a new technology and they tell you that its super improved in game performance... Gonna give you an extra 20 FPS!! awesome stuff!! and you give it the **thumbs up** compared to the previous gen CPU.

oh but what's this??? oooops.... Your game is gonna take 5 secs longer to load now. but its OK coz I got an extra 20FPS.

Would you seriously consider that an upgrade? and not deem it part fail on Intel's part?

I can tell you right now that 9/10 people are not gonna buy it coz they not getting their value for money. Just look at the responses in this thread.

What SSD do you have btw?

Rudimental said:
Huge discrepancies in small block r/w speeds lead to relatively small effects in real-world testing. Perhaps you have some answer, rather than just displaying slack-jawed incredulity when someone points out this fact?
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Random read performance, as it turns out, has a pretty major impact in the real world
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but hey thats just www.anandtech.com ..... they have no idea what they talking about

:rolleyes:
 
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