I must be doing something wrong as I get a message "unable to connect to server : Connection refused"
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DA-LION-619
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More hops, it depends on which hop you’re experiencing packet loss.
Speedtest is more like a sanity check, sometimes unreliable.
Sync apps like the OneDrive client will upload in chunks, you won’t see constant network use.
Basically for a better answer, explain exactly what you’re doing with which service then you can compare with others like for like.
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Longer distance = longer latency. More packets arriving out of order.
Shorter distance = lower latency. Less packets arriving out of order.
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Cool Ideas is a good bet as they have mitigations for last mile packet loss. Its still there but the impact is dampened which makes the experience better.
What do they do to mitigate last mile loss?
I thought I would share this priceless gem with you all.
I am still experiencing tons of packet loss on the upload side of my MFN line. The ISP refer the fault to MFN who after a little while tell me that the line is perfect and the problem is due to international servers, time of the month, howling at moons etc. (I may have made the the last two up)
Basically there is nothing to be done about it.
In my last reply I sent them some screenshots from my Zoom app usage - the screenshots show that on the video receive side I have zero packet loss, but on the upload side close to 30% packet loss. Basically my upload is borked, which is what I have been telling them all the time.
Here is the answer received. I replaced some the individuals name with Xs.
So the conclusion, good people, is, Zoom has lots of security issues and thats why I have packet loss on the upload side of my fibre line.
Never argue ..........
Mark Twian
Sigh.
I am still experiencing tons of packet loss on the upload side of my MFN line. The ISP refer the fault to MFN who after a little while tell me that the line is perfect and the problem is due to international servers, time of the month, howling at moons etc. (I may have made the the last two up)
Basically there is nothing to be done about it.
In my last reply I sent them some screenshots from my Zoom app usage - the screenshots show that on the video receive side I have zero packet loss, but on the upload side close to 30% packet loss. Basically my upload is borked, which is what I have been telling them all the time.
Here is the answer received. I replaced some the individuals name with Xs.
| On 2021/04/08, at 9:39 am, JXXXXs GXXXXr wrote: |
| This is due to international servers. Depending on the server you are connecting to, the amount of jumps or hops between all the servers, their restrictions, security and the quality of upload speed you get to that server, etc, which affects the packet loss and latency. Please see below article that stipulates how Zoom has a lot of security problems and this is why last year it was Banned for a while in Germany: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/zoom-security-privacy-woes |
So the conclusion, good people, is, Zoom has lots of security issues and thats why I have packet loss on the upload side of my fibre line.
Never argue ..........
Mark Twian
Sigh.
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Johnatan56
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Do an iperf3 test to local servers and check packet loss there, should also show up.
Is there a list of local servers and commands to run? I have run them to a Cool Ideas server in the past but these seems unavailable now.
Johnatan56
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I think I used these before:
AS37100 | SEACOM
as37100.net
Issue is SEACOM though, since I last used them they changed to their draconian peering policies.
Technically you could deploy an AWS server for the duration of a test:
AWS Marketplace
aws.amazon.com
@PBCool has some as well, I remember cptspeedtest.cisp.co.za being one of them.
You can use [ code] [ /code] tags for "clean" console outputs.
Geoff.D
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The prime source of packet loss in most networks is and will always be network congestion, followed by service overload.
I think I used these before:
AS37100 | SEACOM
Issue is SEACOM though, since I last used them they changed to their draconian peering policies.
Technically you could deploy an AWS server for the duration of a test:
AWS Marketplace
@PBCool has some as well, I remember cptspeedtest.cisp.co.za being one of them.
You can use [ code] [ /code] tags for "clean" console outputs.
Just an update on this matter.
Its been fixed, there is zero packet loss and performance both locally and internationally is 100%.
Cant say I have been delighted at how long its taken to get resolution but it has happened and I am a happy camper for now.
Its been fixed, there is zero packet loss and performance both locally and internationally is 100%.
Cant say I have been delighted at how long its taken to get resolution but it has happened and I am a happy camper for now.
Geoff.D
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So what did they do to fix it? Whoever they are.
Not sure. But whatever it was it has stayed sorted. No more packet loss and good speeds.
I would love to know what the range of options are that would cause packet loss. The solutions did not involve coming into the home, replacing routers etc. The problem was further up the line.