iOS5 Announced!!

fxit_man said:
Precisely. The whole Android and modern "smartphone" in General concepts are all based on iPhone to begin with..iPhone was first.
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That is a fact that as much as people might HATE it, is not gonna change.
And no, that crappy Samsung F700 was NOT released or shown before the iPhone. It was shown in February the iPhone was announced in January 2007, and then rushed to release.
R&D for the iPhone began in 2005. Yeah, definitely the inspiration for the modern "smartphone" concepts.
 
b1scu1t said:
That is a fact that as much as people might HATE it, is not gonna change.
And no, that crappy Samsung F700 was NOT released or shown before the iPhone. It was shown in February the iPhone was announced in January 2007, and then rushed to release.
R&D for the iPhone began in 2005. Yeah, definitely the inspiration for the modern "smartphone" concepts.
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Haters gonna hate, but we all know the facts whether you like to admit them or not :)
 
Who cares what company copied what. Be it iPhone that copy Android messaging or Android that copy some function from iPhone or even BB and WP7. At the end of the day we the end user win, doesn't matter what device you buy or for what reason be it because of games or free apps or just the looks.

It is really sad to see that End-users do the advertizing for the big companies trying to win sales for the company they backed. Personally I love it when one company copies another because that means that we win and that competition is doing its job, forcing companies to bring tech to us.

Yes I am a Android user and yes I have an iPhone as well. My reasons for going with android is well documented in my Blog and I would love it if some of them make it across to iPhone or even Windows Phone 7, because if they all have the same features they can only compete where it really matters to us, and that is our wallets.

I welcome this update, I do have my views in regard to iMessage but that's a personal matter. Now to see how Android responds to iCloud and alike.
 
Elimentals said:
Who cares what company copied what. Be it iPhone that copy Android messaging or Android that copy some function from iPhone or even BB and WP7. At the end of the day we the end user win, doesn't matter what device you buy or for what reason be it because of games or free apps or just the looks.

It is really sad to see that End-users do the advertizing for the big companies trying to win sales for the company they backed. Personally I love it when one company copies another because that means that we win and that competition is doing its job, forcing companies to bring tech to us.

Yes I am a Android user and yes I have an iPhone as well. My reasons for going with android is well documented in my Blog and I would love it if some of them make it across to iPhone or even Windows Phone 7, because if they all have the same features they can only compete where it really matters to us, and that is our wallets.

I welcome this update, I do have my views in regard to iMessage but that's a personal matter. Now to see how Android responds to iCloud and alike.
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Well done and well said.
I just don't get why Apple haters browse Apple related forums/topics to express themselves hahaha
I've never browsed the Android sections on any forums. I mean, why would I want to?
If an Android user came to an Apple topic to "discuss" then that's all good, and vice-versa, but man I just do not get the "fanboy-flame-in-the-competition's-topic-cause-it's-the-best-thing-I-can-do-with-my-time" attitude.

I cannot think of ONE single iOS user that would complain about iOS 5 and I also cannot imagine that one Android user would complain if features that they didn't have, was introduced on their favorite devices, but I'm surely not gonna bring a tape measure to that topic.

Like you said. I and other iOS users win with each new product or update so who's not happy :)
 
b1scu1t said:
Well done and well said.
I just don't get why Apple haters browse Apple related forums/topics to express themselves hahaha
I've never browsed the Android sections on any forums. I mean, why would I want to?
If an Android user came to an Apple topic to "discuss" then that's all good, and vice-versa, but man I just do not get the "fanboy-flame-in-the-competition's-topic-cause-it's-the-best-thing-I-can-do-with-my-time" attitude.

I cannot think of ONE single iOS user that would complain about iOS 5 and I also cannot imagine that one Android user would complain if features that they didn't have, was introduced on their favorite devices, but I'm surely not gonna bring a tape measure to that topic.

Like you said. I and other iOS users win with each new product or update so who's not happy :)
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This.
 
Really pathetic how people complain. If you think the iPhone etc is crap then don't buy it, nobody is forcing you to do so, you have a wide range of other smartphones to choose from. Poephols.
 
b1scu1t said:
So Android is revolutionary? Or a copy?
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And in breaking news...

Apple's iOS 5 and iCloud no threat to Android

Put away your pitchforks, folks: There will be no fruit-focused lynching here today.

I know, I know: Following Apple's unveiling of iOS 5 and its magical and revolutionary iCloud service, you probably came here expecting an emphatic rant about how everything new in Apple's mobile platform is actually old news for those of us on Android. I've certainly written that story before (okay, I've written it a few times). Today, though, I thought I'd approach the subject from a slightly different perspective.

To be clear, most of the standard "Apple's new is Android's old" arguments apply as much to this year's WWDC announcements as they have to past iEvents. Nonintrusive notifications? Check. PC-like browsing? Got it. PC-free activation and synchronization? Yep. An email client that doesn't suck? Yawn. Apple's iOS 5 is largely the company playing catchup; there's little question about that.

Sure, Apple did integrate some features available via third-party Android apps directly into iOS -- location-specific reminders, for instance, or a BBM-like messaging utility. And the company's iCloud service does offer some neat twists on familiar concepts, like the ability to store your music in the cloud without having to upload it, as you presently do with Google Music. The upload-free option works only with iTunes-purchased songs unless you opt to pay $25 a year, of course -- and the service doesn't actually let you stream music, only download it to an iOS device or to iTunes on a computer -- but it's a nice touch nevertheless. The same can be said for the OS-level integration of media backups, something you need an app to achieve in Android.

Here's the thing, though: While all of these new features will be nice improvements for Apple's existing iPhone users, they won't be enough to convince any meaningful number of Android users (or would-be Android users) to jump ship. They'll lessen the gap in functionality between the two platforms -- for now, at least -- but can you really imagine any Android devotee getting an "OMG, gotta have that" feeling as a result of something in the iOS 5 feature list? I can't.

Consider, too, Android's untouched edge in the field of choice and customization. Android allows you to pick from a huge selection of phones, ranging from simple QWERTY sliders to the big-screened quad-core phones of the future. Once you select a phone, Android gives you the ability to install what you want and use the device how you want. You aren't limited to simple static rows of icons on your home screens (or, now, to Apple's idea of how your lock screen should look). You can customize practically every facet of the system -- heck, you can replace the whole system launcher with a feature-laden alternative, transforming the very core of your phone into something tailored to your tastes.

There are plenty of other Android features still unmatched by Apple, of course -- system-wide voice-to-text functionality, full and unrestricted file access, diverse widgets, true unlimited multitasking, blah blah blah -- but that's all beside the point. The real point is this: Apple and Android represent drastically different mobile ecosystems with drastically different types of appeal. This week's news only reinforces that notion.

Android is all about choice and cutting-edge innovation. New hardware and software alike pour out at a breakneck pace, and the number of options can be almost staggering at times. Apple, on the other hand, is about simplicity and uniformity. Instead of getting every feature and choice under the sun, you get Steve Jobs' carefully controlled vision for what a smartphone should be. If you like that vision, you're in for a treat -- and iOS 5 will undoubtedly make your day.

If you prefer doing things in a way that's different from Steve Jobs' tightly defined ideal, though -- be it in terms of the kind of hardware you prefer or how you like your phone's software to work -- Apple's mobile products aren't going to cut your mustard. And iOS 5, even with its upload-free iCloud, won't come close to changing that.

Ultimately, neither platform's approach is inherently better; it all comes down to your own personal preference. And in the end, there'll always be ample room for both worlds to exist. True, Apple seems unlikely to steal back any of Android's increasing lead in market share (remember, even high-profile launches like the iPhone 4 and Verizon iPhone have been unable to do that). Jobs and co. can perform their usual fact-twisting feats to make it look like iOS is leading the pack, but it doesn't take much to see through their shena****ns (see this story by Business Insider for the latest bout of lie-busting).

But that's all inside baseball; a typical user doesn't know or care what market share his smartphone platform possesses. All he cares about is whether the platform does what he wants. iOS will do more thanks to this year's upcoming update, and for Apple fans, that's fantastic. For the kind of person who's drawn to the choice- and power-driven environment afforded by Android, however, iOS still doesn't do enough -- and probably never will.

In the big picture, to borrow a phrase I once heard, this changes nothing...again. And regardless of where your mobile loyalties lie, that's perfectly fine.
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http://blogs.computerworld.com/18420/apple_ios_5_icloud_android?source=CTWNLE_nlt_blogs_2011-06-08
 
The Rat said:
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http://blogs.computerworld.com/18420/apple_ios_5_icloud_android?source=CTWNLE_nlt_blogs_2011-06-08
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*Sigh* So, let me see if I've got this straight... The blogger from Computerworld concludes that IOS fans will be happy with IOS5, Android fans will continue to choose Android devices but that neither platform is "inherently better" because it comes down to personal choice... So, so, so, so many of us have said that on MyBB again and again... The only new thing here is that reading that was five minutes of my life I'll never get back.
 
greg0205 said:
*Sigh* So, let me see if I've got this straight... The blogger from Computerworld concludes that IOS fans will be happy with IOS5, Android fans will continue to choose Android devices but that neither platform is "inherently better" because it comes down to personal choice... So, so, so, so many of us have said that on MyBB again and again... The only new thing here is that reading that was five minutes of my life I'll never get back.
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+1
 
and too think I paid for LockInfo :) Apple does not invent... the re-invent and make better :)
 
Apple isn't original and copies other companies ideas then flaunts them as revolutionary. But so does pretty much every other company in every other industry. Look at the car industry, VW had their DSG gearbox then how many other companies came out with a similar one that was just that much better? Hell, everyone copies Mercedes because they were the first people to produce a car, and Ford because all mainstream car companies use his basic manufacturing line principles. It goes on and on... ABS, Airbags, traction control, four wheel drive... Thats the way industry works. You do something, we do it better.

Have you looked at a Samsung Galaxy lately? Isn't its interface weirdly similar to the iPhones? Nokias OVI store, I'm sure some other company had a music and app store built into their software first?
 
Guantanamo said:
Apple isn't original and copies other companies ideas then flaunts them as revolutionary. But so does pretty much every other company in every other industry. Look at the car industry, VW had their DSG gearbox then how many other companies came out with a similar one that was just that much better? Hell, everyone copies Mercedes because they were the first people to produce a car, and Ford because all mainstream car companies use his basic manufacturing line principles. It goes on and on... ABS, Airbags, traction control, four wheel drive... Thats the way industry works. You do something, we do it better.

Have you looked at a Samsung Galaxy lately? Isn't its interface weirdly similar to the iPhones? Nokias OVI store, I'm sure some other company had a music and app store built into their software first?
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Don't forget Audi's LED daytime running lights ;)
 
I used to like to read these kind of bashing and would often bash a bit myself. but after 4 years of enjoying OSX these kind of bashing seems silly.

Who listened/remembers PCMacSMACKDOWN! I loved that show. They even read one of my mails.

I kindof wish i still enjoyed it. Good times. But now, I see it's stupid.
 
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