IP Camera (NVR) Hikvision Opinions Needed Please

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Hi, so I am quite tired of the analogue crap that you buy from bidorbuy or other places selling it as great quality just to install it and realize it is not, paying lots of money just to have an inferior system. Night vision is never really that great, I need to be able to see faces at least 10-15 meters away from the camera and it needs to be proper decent recording quality. So I have decided to go the IP camera route, it is for a small town house in a complex. I stay in Pretoria and work in Sandton so I need to be able to check what is going on at home at any time, I have an adsl line so remote viewing will not be a problem (have done it with my analogue setup). I have read all that I could on this forum, and it seems the general consensus is that Hikvision is not a bad brand. I am planning on buying from Communica in Midrand unless any of you know of somewhere else to get it?

My setup will be 6-7 cameras, normal bullet style except one dome for outside underneath the "afdak" in front of the garages. I am really not familiar with IP cameras and the pitfalls thereof. I understood Hikvision NVRs mostly have built in PoE ports, so there is no need for an additional PoE switch, and that another thing to keep in mind is if the camera has seperate power ports along with it's ethernet cable or if it also has PoE built in. Can you guys please check the below 3 items/links from Communica and give me your opinions?

I don't want to go bigger than 8 channel for the NVR as the budget is only around R11k - R14k. For the next 3 years I would not be adding anymore cameras onto it. I tried picking an 8 channel NVR that has a good recording and playback rate. You also plug a 220v cable directly into it and it supports 2 x hard drives. Please let me know what you think and if Hikvision is worth the money? I am so tired of wasting cash on the analogue systems.

Thanks For your time and for reading :D

http://www.communica.co.za/catalog/Details/P0245118790

http://www.communica.co.za/catalog/Details/P2657794485

http://www.communica.co.za/catalog/Details/P2253441054
 
Brakanjan said:
Hi, so I am quite tired of the analogue crap that you buy from bidorbuy or other places selling it as great quality just to install it and realize it is not, paying lots of money just to have an inferior system. Night vision is never really that great, I need to be able to see faces at least 10-15 meters away from the camera and it needs to be proper decent recording quality. So I have decided to go the IP camera route, it is for a small town house in a complex. I stay in Pretoria and work in Sandton so I need to be able to check what is going on at home at any time, I have an adsl line so remote viewing will not be a problem (have done it with my analogue setup). I have read all that I could on this forum, and it seems the general consensus is that Hikvision is not a bad brand. I am planning on buying from Communica in Midrand unless any of you know of somewhere else to get it?

My setup will be 6-7 cameras, normal bullet style except one dome for outside underneath the "afdak" in front of the garages. I am really not familiar with IP cameras and the pitfalls thereof. I understood Hikvision NVRs mostly have built in PoE ports, so there is no need for an additional PoE switch, and that another thing to keep in mind is if the camera has seperate power ports along with it's ethernet cable or if it also has PoE built in. Can you guys please check the below 3 items/links from Communica and give me your opinions?

I don't want to go bigger than 8 channel for the NVR as the budget is only around R11k - R14k. For the next 3 years I would not be adding anymore cameras onto it. I tried picking an 8 channel NVR that has a good recording and playback rate. You also plug a 220v cable directly into it and it supports 2 x hard drives. Please let me know what you think and if Hikvision is worth the money? I am so tired of wasting cash on the analogue systems.

Thanks For your time and for reading :D

http://www.communica.co.za/catalog/Details/P0245118790

http://www.communica.co.za/catalog/Details/P2657794485

http://www.communica.co.za/catalog/Details/P2253441054
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I have a Hikvison ip setup -- its quality go for it
 
I'm also looking at migrating my Analog system to an IP based system.
I currently have 6 Camera's connected to my 8ch Analog setup.
I want to add some more camera's and thinking of buying a NVR and then slowly switch the analog camera to IP ones.
My current setup cost me R2600 from BidOrBuy and 2 of the cameras have already packed up.

Been looking at the HikVision stuff from First shop they seem a little cheaper.

http://firstshop.co.za/hikvision-ds-2cd2042wd-i-network-surveillance-DS-2CD2042WD-I-p-31980

16ch version of the 8ch above for similar price.
http://firstshop.co.za/hikvision-ds-7600-series-ds-7616ni-e28p-DS-7616NI-E28P-p-24595

Would also be interested in anyones input on the HikVision stuff.
 
There are at least 3 recent threads in Off Topic discussing Hikvision and CCTV in general. Maybe have a look there.
 
I got my Hikvision 2042 camera yesterday.
Tested it in both light and dark conditions.

Superb quality geez. :)

Will do a review as soon as I mount it.
 
Just a quick thought - ADSL probably does not have enough upstream bandwidth for you to get a decent HD picture remotely.
 
Sinbad said:
Just a quick thought - ADSL probably does not have enough upstream bandwidth for you to get a decent HD picture remotely.
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I just connected over 3G though and it seems okayish, trying to remote from my work network but it seems I'm blocked.
 
Solid choices all round, I would look at a hybrid NVR option if your analogue cameras are half way decent instead of just canning them.

That said IMHO I suggest a PC build over an embedded DVR, a decent core i7 will set you back a bit more moolla but a solid contender for future proofing.

I have 13x 3/4MP cameras ranging from EXIR (superior night vision cameras with built in illuminators) to the ones featured above all connected to a Xeon machine with no performance hassles.

I started off with a 4tb drive but will be upgrading as I need more cameras and the PC hardly works up a sweat running 24/7/365.

At home I have a single IP camera and on a 1tb drive with around 25 days recording, I have not bothered to reduce quality or adjust frame rates as I have enough space.

Night vision is tops as well.. let me know if anyone needs a sample.
 
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Do you have something that keeps it powered for when the power trips?
 
At work, all cabinets have a 1Kva UPS which holds for around 1.5 hours. Doing the same for the house now tho I need some form of emergency lighting for when the power cuts.

I also would suggest a flood light for every camera if deploying in a commercial environment. Made a huge difference for me coupled with an EXIR camera.
 
I work with Hikvision on a daily basis and have sites running with 80+ ip cameras on different sites with wireless backhauls. Make sure to play with the image setting, i found that noise reduction set to 70-80, wdr off and gain set to 80 is pretty much the best you can get in a low light area. If there is lighting in the area, you might be able to set to day and have your image in color.

IMO, for the price, really good cameras.


CamiKaze said:
I got my Hikvision 2042 camera yesterday.
Tested it in both light and dark conditions.

Superb quality geez. :)

Will do a review as soon as I mount it.
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I suspect the 8P / 16P part indicates the presence of the POE (Power over Ethernet) switch on the back. I have the DS-7616NI-E2/8P which is a 16 channel device, but offers 8x POE ports on the rear. I currently have 4x DS-2CD2032F-I Bullet cams connected via POE and another 4x waiting for me to get around to installing. I did a huge amount of research before deciding on Hikvision and am extremely impressed with the quality of my images, both day and night. The phone App is also extremely good.
 
Ryder_JHB said:
I suspect the 8P / 16P part indicates the presence of the POE (Power over Ethernet) switch on the back. I have the DS-7616NI-E2/8P which is a 16 channel device, but offers 8x POE ports on the rear. I currently have 4x DS-2CD2032F-I Bullet cams connected via POE and another 4x waiting for me to get around to installing. I did a huge amount of research before deciding on Hikvision and am extremely impressed with the quality of my images, both day and night. The phone App is also extremely good.
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Get a PoE injector and setup each camera individually, when these cameras come out the box they are set at a mid range quality, you should be able to bump up the resolution and change image quality from medium to highest, toggle the sharpness a bit and you will be grinning from ear to ear. Be sure to upgrade the firmware as it unlocks the base 40-80mbps throughput to 100mbps.
 
Yeah, I have a 4 port PoE switch already, so the cheaper one is fine for me, I guess. Thanks!
 
Reviving this oldish thred.
I am about to have a Hikvision IP system installed. What exactly is needed in terms of internet and network to allow me to log in and remotely view on a phone or other computer?
I am a network noob, I recall one of the guys coming to give a quote mentioning something about a static IP???
The internet is not finalized yet, but will probably be uncapped Telkom LTE with a Huawei router. The Huawei router has 1 Ethernet port, so I'll probably add another router to the setup to which I'll connect the NVR, something like a TP-Link Archer C5.

Also, I understand a firewall is quite important if connecting a CCTV system to the internet, how do I set up a firewall and what do I need to do this? Will the firewall feature of the TP-Link router be fine for the job?
 
bigboy529 said:
Reviving this oldish thred.
I am about to have a Hikvision IP system installed. What exactly is needed in terms of internet and network to allow me to log in and remotely view on a phone or other computer?
I am a network noob, I recall one of the guys coming to give a quote mentioning something about a static IP???
The internet is not finalized yet, but will probably be uncapped Telkom LTE with a Huawei router. The Huawei router has 1 Ethernet port, so I'll probably add another router to the setup to which I'll connect the NVR, something like a TP-Link Archer C5.

Also, I understand a firewall is quite important if connecting a CCTV system to the internet, how do I set up a firewall and what do I need to do this? Will the firewall feature of the TP-Link router be fine for the job?
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If you are buying IP cameras that have POE, then I would suggest you get a POE switch to connect all your cameras to and connect the switch to the router. The POE switch will power the cameras so you don't need a power point at each and every camera.

What exactly is needed in terms of internet and network to allow me to log in and remotely view on a phone or other computer?
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I have a 4meg line and I can view the live stream over my phone via iVMSW-4500HD. You can get this from the PlayStore.

I recall one of the guys coming to give a quote mentioning something about a static IP???
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The cameras come with software that helps you detect the camera then you can set your own static IP. You can then port forward the IP and the ports on the router. I think its port 80, 544 and another. Can't remember. Will check tomorrow.

so I'll probably add another router to the setup to which I'll connect the NVR, something like a TP-Link Archer C5.
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If you are going with an NVR then forget about the switch that I mentioned.
 
CamiKaze said:
If you are buying IP cameras that have POE, then I would suggest you get a POE switch to connect all your cameras to and connect the switch to the router. The POE switch will power the cameras so you don't need a power point at each and every camera.



I have a 4meg line and I can view the live stream over my phone via iVMSW-4500HD. You can get this from the PlayStore.



The cameras come with software that helps you detect the camera then you can set your own static IP. You can then port forward the IP and the ports on the router. I think its port 80, 544 and another. Can't remember. Will check tomorrow.



If you are going with an NVR then forget about the switch that I mentioned.
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Thank you, already going for a POE switch to power the cameras, the nature of the setup is that the NVR will sit in a office, from the office there will be a 40 meter cable run to a warehouse and the 6 cameras will be installed in the warehouse. Plan is to run a single cable 40 meters in to the warehouse where the POE switch will sit, and from the POE switch the cameras will be powered.

The modem for internet will be in the office, it will be a Huawei connected to a TP-Link Archer C7 router / wifi AP. The NVR will then be connected to the TP-Link router.
 
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