iPhone 7 and 7 Plus

[RoboJedi]

Oh and no "hiss"

And the home button, its amazing how well they did the haptic feedback.

 

[Se@n]

They didn't ship my SE before launch day. I got it a few days later

Why they don't attempt to stick to how Apple and US carriers do it I don't know. The phones are in the country already, plenty time to get themselves organized.

 

[ahoudet]

Why they don't attempt to stick to how Apple and US carriers do it I don't know. The phones are in the country already, plenty time to get themselves organized.

Because knowing how "organised" they are, it will be handed over to customers as soon as the stores hold the stock (before launch day)

 

[FiestaST]

Report: The 32GB iPhone 7 Plus uses a much slower storage, our tests show

Faster, newer, better - we've all grown accustomed to expect that the latest iPhone will be the fastest iPhone yet.

The replacement of a 16GB base version with a 32GB was one of the welcome and well overdue changes that came with this year's generation. But little did we know that this move comes with a caveat of its own.

Our benchmark tests so far point us to believe that the 32GB model has, in fact, a few times lower storage performance compared to the 128GB model of the iPhone 7 and the 64GB model of the 6s Plus, which we have available for comparison.

Using the free Basemark OS II benchmark from the App Store we ran multiple tests and the iPhone 7 Plus 32GB never scored more than 800 points in the Storage department as opposed to the 1300-1700 points we got from the other iPhones we have.

Since the storage results under Basemark vary greatly from test to test, we decided to include another benchmark - by Pass Mark. This benchmark revealed that the iPhone 7 Plus 32GB does badly in the Write portion of the test as otherwise its Read performance is about as equal to the iPhone 6s Plus.

But benchmarks are synthetic, and we wanted to see how this slower storage relates to real-life performance. So we came up with the following test: we shot a 10-minute 4K video with the iPhone, and we then trimmed it exactly in half using the built-in trimming feature of the standard Photos app. We then timed how long it takes the three iPhones to complete the operation of saving the trim as a new file.

It's a great test as it's a task you might find yourself occasionally doing and also it involves both reading the original big file (3.3GB) and writing a fairly big new video file.

And boy, what a difference - the 32GB iPhone 7 Plus was three times slower than the 128GB model!

And did you see the difference in the PassMark Storage Write rating between the 32GB and 128GB version? It's almost 8x.

Of course, we didn't have a second unit to verify our findings so we can't dismiss the possibility that our review unit is faulty (though it's a store-bought retail unit).

Apple could also be using different vendors for its storage chips so the difference in storage speed could be due to the chip maker and not the difference in size.

But regardless of the reasons, storage is a crucial aspect of a phone's overall performance, and we wanted to get this out in public as soon as possible. We're sure many other people can do further testing, and we'll get our answer one way or another.

If you have the 32GB version of any of the two new iPhones, hit us with your benchmark scores in the comments below. We'd like to get to the bottom of this.

http://m.gsmarena.com/the_32gb_ipho..._slower_storage_our_tests_show-blog-20943.php

 

[jacques is hier]

Report: The 32GB iPhone 7 Plus uses a much slower storage, our tests show

Faster, newer, better - we've all grown accustomed to expect that the latest iPhone will be the fastest iPhone yet.

The replacement of a 16GB base version with a 32GB was one of the welcome and well overdue changes that came with this year's generation. But little did we know that this move comes with a caveat of its own.

Our benchmark tests so far point us to believe that the 32GB model has, in fact, a few times lower storage performance compared to the 128GB model of the iPhone 7 and the 64GB model of the 6s Plus, which we have available for comparison.

Using the free Basemark OS II benchmark from the App Store we ran multiple tests and the iPhone 7 Plus 32GB never scored more than 800 points in the Storage department as opposed to the 1300-1700 points we got from the other iPhones we have.

Since the storage results under Basemark vary greatly from test to test, we decided to include another benchmark - by Pass Mark. This benchmark revealed that the iPhone 7 Plus 32GB does badly in the Write portion of the test as otherwise its Read performance is about as equal to the iPhone 6s Plus.

But benchmarks are synthetic, and we wanted to see how this slower storage relates to real-life performance. So we came up with the following test: we shot a 10-minute 4K video with the iPhone, and we then trimmed it exactly in half using the built-in trimming feature of the standard Photos app. We then timed how long it takes the three iPhones to complete the operation of saving the trim as a new file.

It's a great test as it's a task you might find yourself occasionally doing and also it involves both reading the original big file (3.3GB) and writing a fairly big new video file.

And boy, what a difference - the 32GB iPhone 7 Plus was three times slower than the 128GB model!

And did you see the difference in the PassMark Storage Write rating between the 32GB and 128GB version? It's almost 8x.

Of course, we didn't have a second unit to verify our findings so we can't dismiss the possibility that our review unit is faulty (though it's a store-bought retail unit).

Apple could also be using different vendors for its storage chips so the difference in storage speed could be due to the chip maker and not the difference in size.

But regardless of the reasons, storage is a crucial aspect of a phone's overall performance, and we wanted to get this out in public as soon as possible. We're sure many other people can do further testing, and we'll get our answer one way or another.

If you have the 32GB version of any of the two new iPhones, hit us with your benchmark scores in the comments below. We'd like to get to the bottom of this.

http://m.gsmarena.com/the_32gb_ipho..._slower_storage_our_tests_show-blog-20943.php

Thats it I am getting a 6s.

 

[whatwhat]

Thats it I am getting a 6s.

Just get a 128GB 7.

The 6S is a terrible phone to get now.

 

[biometrics]

Just get a 128GB 7.

The 6S is a terrible phone to get now.

A year ago it was the best iPhone ever.

 

[longboy]

Just get a 128GB 7.

The 6S is a terrible phone to get now.

Or you could get a great Huawei for half the price...

 

[FiestaST]

The 6S is a terrible phone to get now.

Lol

 

[whatwhat]

Lol

It's a year old phone. Why would anyone buy it with the iPhone 7 out soon?
http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/

It has wide color display, water/dust protection and much better processor. Plus for those that spring for the cheapest model the at least get 32GB as base storage.

Would you go take out a contract on a 6S at this point, assuming you were due for an upgrade?

 

[FiestaST]

If it was reduced a fair bit then yes. Thats all in theory of course.

Just cos the 6S is a year older hardly makes its a "terrible phone" as you say.

 

[Dave]

If it was reduced a fair bit then yes. Thats all in theory of course.

Just cos the 6S is a year older hardly makes its a "terrible phone" as you say.

I've got an iPhone 7 and an iPhone 6s Plus, there really isn't a lot between them, certainly not enough for the current price premium on the 7.

Only reason I have the 7 was to replace an old iPhone 6, that's an upgrade worth doing, but with hindsight probably could have just replaced it with a 6s...

 

[whatwhat]

If it was reduced a fair bit then yes. Thats all in theory of course.

Just cos the 6S is a year older hardly makes its a "terrible phone" as you say.

The only reason to buy the 6S is if you want a headphone jack, don't want to carry a converter and want a bigger phone.
Otherwise iPhone 7 or SE all the way.

For people that already own the phone, well, sell it quick before the 2nd hand market gets flooded.

 

[Dave]

The only reason to buy the 6S is if you want a headphone jack, don't want to carry a converter and want a bigger phone.
Otherwise iPhone 7 or SE all the way.

So how is the SE a better choice than the 6s?

 

[whatwhat]

So how is the SE a better choice than the 6s?

Read the first sentence, where I said if you want the bigger phone with those options.

Between the SE and the 7 all the phone sizes are covered.

 

[Dave]

Read the first sentence, where I said if you want the bigger phone with those options.

Between the SE and the 7 all the phone sizes are covered.

That doesn't explain how a SE is better than a 6s, so exactly what makes a SE a better phone than a 6s?

 

[whatwhat]

That doesn't explain how a SE is better than a 6s, so exactly what makes a SE a better phone than a 6s?

Because the SE is the only option if you want a small iPhone.

If you want the medium or large size iPhone, then the 7 or 7 Plus are the ones to get. Unless like I said you can get the 6S really cheap, or you really need the headphone jack.

Do you walk into a car dealership and buy a 2015 model for nearly the same price as a 2016 model, that is 40% down on power?

 

[Dave]

Because the SE is the only option if you want a small iPhone.

Why should the size matter when discussing the performance or "future proofness" of a phone? If you are advocating that the 6s is so bad now, then the conclusion must be applied to the other device with almost identical performance.

If you want the medium or large size iPhone, then the 7 or 7 Plus are the ones to get. Unless like I said you can get the 6S really cheap, or you really need the headphone jack.

Do you walk into a car dealership and buy a 2015 model for nearly the same price as a 2016 model, that is 40% down on power?

Except the 6s isn't nearly the same price as the 7, the 6s is only around 80% of the price of the 7 and that supposed power difference is almost unnoticeable in actual use...

Tell me, how long have you personally had hands on use of a 7 to make you such an expert on how it performs against the 6s?

 

[whatwhat]

Why should the size matter when discussing the performance or "future proofness" of a phone? If you are advocating that the 6s is so bad now, then the conclusion must be applied to the other device with almost identical performance.



Except the 6s isn't nearly the same price as the 7, the 6s is only around 80% of the price of the 7 and that supposed power difference is almost unnoticeable in actual use...

Tell me, how long have you personally had hands on use of a 7 to make you such an expert on how it performs against the 6s?

These are the only options one should consider when buying an iPhone:

Buying a 4" phone - iPhone SE
Buying a 4.7" phone - iPhone 7
Buying a 5.5" phone - iPhone 7 Plus

The SE is the only phone in the 4" range, so it's the only option regardless of what internals it has. There aren't options.
In the larger sizes there is a choice, and for those the 7 should be picked.

In South Africa the phones aren't cheaper, current contract prices puts it around 13% more expensive for the 7. It doesn't make any sense to buy it here, and then still get a 16GB phone vs a 32GB phone with 40% more power.

We are still very early into IOS 10, and the gap in performance will show as more apps actually start integrating and using IOS 10 features like widgets.

There is nothing wrong with the 6S, it was a good phone. But it's time to put it in the ground.

 

[Dave]

You realise that the 6s hasn't been discontinued and is now available as a 32GB and 128GB model, you aren't trying to compare the price of the old 16GB model are you?

Again, how long have you personally had hands on use of a 7 to make you such an expert on how it performs against the 6s?

We are still very early into IOS 10, and the gap in performance will show as more apps actually start integrating and using IOS 10 features like widgets.

So how will the SE handle this glaring gap in iOS 10 performance you've dreamt up?