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AirWolf
Honorary Master
Oh boy, another Apple fanboy 
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So we have the iTV on which you can't download any iTunes. And now we have the iPod on which you can't download any apps [yet].
Go Apple
. So we have the iTV on which you can't download any iTunes. And now we have the iPod on which you can't download any apps [yet].
Go Apple
Even though I'm fairly certain AppleTv users wont need to, anyone with an internet connection can download iTunes.Oh boy, another Apple fanboy
So we have the iTV on which you can't download any iTunes. And now we have the iPod on which you can't download any apps [yet].
Go Apple
nictron
Senior Member
You cant download from iTunes without an international Credit Card South Africa is on Apple's black list!
There are several local resellers apparently dealing in iTS vouchers but I would agree that at times it appears SA is a bit of an Apple Afterthought™.
I'm very disappointed too that the latest firmware upgrade for the iPod Touch is to be charged for ($20). It adds mail and a few other iPhone apps including weather and stocks, but I'm not really convinced that I really need these apps.
That $20 is a bizarre and bewildering decision by Jobs.
pope24
Expert Member
From what I hear the charge is an accounting issue, the Apple TV and the iPhone are accounted for on a subscription basis which means you split the revenue up over X many months while all the other ipods are accounted for normally.
Apparently this means that if you add substantial new functionality to the iPods you have to charge for it. I think this is BS personally and they could have sold it for $1 especially considering how expensive the damn things are in the first place.
Just to clear things up the firmware and the apps are not the same thing you can download and install the 1.1.3 firmware without getting the apps. That said I am waiting for Apple to come back to me on how they plan to allow non-itunes countries to get the apps. I don't think they thought this through properly.
I am not going to go through the back door to get the apps I want them done officially.
I may be a fanboy but if the touch had sucked I would have said so, I just wish I had waited for the $20 announcement I would have had some choice words to add.
Ben
Apparently this means that if you add substantial new functionality to the iPods you have to charge for it. I think this is BS personally and they could have sold it for $1 especially considering how expensive the damn things are in the first place.
Just to clear things up the firmware and the apps are not the same thing you can download and install the 1.1.3 firmware without getting the apps. That said I am waiting for Apple to come back to me on how they plan to allow non-itunes countries to get the apps. I don't think they thought this through properly.
I am not going to go through the back door to get the apps I want them done officially.
I may be a fanboy but if the touch had sucked I would have said so, I just wish I had waited for the $20 announcement I would have had some choice words to add.
Ben
"There are only two buttons on the touch: a power button and a home button. Other than that you have to use your fingers to do everything. "
Waahahaaaaa!!!!! So what... the 2 buttons are mind powered? or do you need a stick to use em..
On another note in Apples defense here (wierd hey!) The thing is with consumer electronics, the minute you start making a device do more than it's original intention, it becomes something else. Which in turn opens another kettle of fish. Look at this iPod now, it is sposed to be an media device, and it does that job very well. But now they make it look and perform PDA like functions, now all of a sudden people think they are buying a PDA and want the extensibility of a PDA. Apple is the master of closed systems (by closed I mean not scalable, I.E.: the device serves an intended purpose), they do em very well, but it seems as inevitable as innovation they are now being forced into the open system market (by open system I mean scalable, and the ability to write new applications and find new uses for the device), and are only learning lessons now that the PC market learnt many years ago.
Open system are damm difficult, cause now all of a sudden the device doesnt know what it is being used for or what is being plugged into it. And being an MS fanboy I gotta do the mandatory MS piece here. People often crit windowsfor stability compared to Macs, but this is the thing, if the Mac were a truley open system we would see a different story. I guess now that Mac is making a push into open system (by the look of the Firmware comments) time will tell. I only wish Apple let third party manufacuters do hardware for the Mac.
Waahahaaaaa!!!!! So what... the 2 buttons are mind powered? or do you need a stick to use em..
On another note in Apples defense here (wierd hey!) The thing is with consumer electronics, the minute you start making a device do more than it's original intention, it becomes something else. Which in turn opens another kettle of fish. Look at this iPod now, it is sposed to be an media device, and it does that job very well. But now they make it look and perform PDA like functions, now all of a sudden people think they are buying a PDA and want the extensibility of a PDA. Apple is the master of closed systems (by closed I mean not scalable, I.E.: the device serves an intended purpose), they do em very well, but it seems as inevitable as innovation they are now being forced into the open system market (by open system I mean scalable, and the ability to write new applications and find new uses for the device), and are only learning lessons now that the PC market learnt many years ago.
Open system are damm difficult, cause now all of a sudden the device doesnt know what it is being used for or what is being plugged into it. And being an MS fanboy I gotta do the mandatory MS piece here. People often crit windowsfor stability compared to Macs, but this is the thing, if the Mac were a truley open system we would see a different story. I guess now that Mac is making a push into open system (by the look of the Firmware comments) time will tell. I only wish Apple let third party manufacuters do hardware for the Mac.
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But . . . the recently announced AppleTV upgrade is free.
I've played with both the iphone and ipod touch. They are both the most amazing and beautiful devices I have ever seen - in a totally different league to anything else IMO.
I've never owned an apple product but if I had the money I would def be buying one of these!
I've never owned an apple product but if I had the money I would def be buying one of these!
AirWolf
Honorary Master
That's use point pope24 was making. The iTV and iPhone upgrades are free because they are on contract.
I personally don't think so. I was a 3G iPod user since way before they were available in SA. However after that I changed to Creative for portable media and now Cowon. Why? Because of superior features at similar or lower price.
First of all I'm not a wifi internet user. I have an internet connection at home and I don't have them at work (no time) and secondly I'd want to watch music or view video while driving and shopping (music)
and video while say on a long haul flight. I never use Wifi while out. So for me the quality of the screen (16.7 million colours, 800 by 480 resolution at 4 inches) clinched it as did the huge array of playback audio formats I could enjoy (lossless FLAC, OGG, WAV, AAC, MP3, WMA) and video formats (DivX 3.11,4,5,6 and 7, XviD, H246, WMV, MPEG2, MJPEG including complicated seperate file subtitle support) in resolutions up to 1280by720 - which the player is also capable of outputting via component and composite connections. Plus a text/document viewer, audio recorder (mic), audio recorder (radio), video recorder (analog in), DBV capability - watch terrestrial digital TV, picture viewer (view unlimited size RAW files, JPEG, PNG and BMP) and finally the ability to use the player as a USB dock for
digital cameras and USB drives (copy pictures off your camera).
I found this non-Apple player (60GB Cowon A3) to be incredibly well designed. Its rock solid,
pleasant to the eye, sleek, reasonably easy to navigate, a great interface, heck you can even navigate files while watching video. Oh yes it works with my Mac and with my Windoze PC without additional software.
Video playback is 5 hours, audio 9.
In summary I guess for me it comes down to functionality. The iPod 3G was a great player, it played MP3's well and was easy to navigate with the touchwheel and remote. Then came the video but it's inferior screen (320 by 240) and limited format support (H246 QT only) made this a player not on my wishlist.
A slightly more expensive player from Cowon with a 60GB HD, called the Q5
has full Wifi, Bluetooth and touchscreen once again at 800by480 res at 16.7 million colours.
So before you believe the hype Google around a bit and see that there are
cheaper players with often superior features (for example RAW picture viewing is a killer application for photographers as is USB docking).
First of all I'm not a wifi internet user. I have an internet connection at home and I don't have them at work (no time) and secondly I'd want to watch music or view video while driving and shopping (music)
and video while say on a long haul flight. I never use Wifi while out. So for me the quality of the screen (16.7 million colours, 800 by 480 resolution at 4 inches) clinched it as did the huge array of playback audio formats I could enjoy (lossless FLAC, OGG, WAV, AAC, MP3, WMA) and video formats (DivX 3.11,4,5,6 and 7, XviD, H246, WMV, MPEG2, MJPEG including complicated seperate file subtitle support) in resolutions up to 1280by720 - which the player is also capable of outputting via component and composite connections. Plus a text/document viewer, audio recorder (mic), audio recorder (radio), video recorder (analog in), DBV capability - watch terrestrial digital TV, picture viewer (view unlimited size RAW files, JPEG, PNG and BMP) and finally the ability to use the player as a USB dock for
digital cameras and USB drives (copy pictures off your camera).
I found this non-Apple player (60GB Cowon A3) to be incredibly well designed. Its rock solid,
pleasant to the eye, sleek, reasonably easy to navigate, a great interface, heck you can even navigate files while watching video. Oh yes it works with my Mac and with my Windoze PC without additional software.
Video playback is 5 hours, audio 9.
In summary I guess for me it comes down to functionality. The iPod 3G was a great player, it played MP3's well and was easy to navigate with the touchwheel and remote. Then came the video but it's inferior screen (320 by 240) and limited format support (H246 QT only) made this a player not on my wishlist.
A slightly more expensive player from Cowon with a 60GB HD, called the Q5
has full Wifi, Bluetooth and touchscreen once again at 800by480 res at 16.7 million colours.
So before you believe the hype Google around a bit and see that there are
cheaper players with often superior features (for example RAW picture viewing is a killer application for photographers as is USB docking).
HDC
Active Member
hmmm....sorry for being little of topic here but we are not only on the blacklist but also on the terrorist list from 1996 when the new government "proved" themselves...
I used to buy a lot of equipment from the US as I was using it to compete on international level in a certain sport and having attained springbuck status thought that it would be no problem. Too my disgust - every single supplier in the US told me that since we are on the terrorist list, they can be fined US250k or imprisonment of 15 years if caught exporting to SA.
This absolutely ticked me off big time and I also confirmed this with the relevant US department - so it's true but I never understood it - until this week with Eskom, Telkom, Chief of Police, the new supposed president of this country, people who now suddenly want the death penalty because it now suits them until next week, rate hikes when we should have rate cuts, petrol price increase when oil prices are down, absolute incompetence and the list goes on and on....
If I were standing on the outside, I would also declare SA to be a no-go zone - so at this moment, I do not blame Apple for not looking at our market - I would do the same if I were in their position...
There's nothing contractual about the Apple TV.
I believe pope24 was referring to accounting practices such as Sarbanes-Oxley. Apple used that excuse when they decided to charge for the Airport 802.11n upgrade a while back.
FiestaST
Honorary Master
*epic Le Bump*
Apple discontinues iPod touch, ending 20 year run of iconic ‘iPod’ brand
It’s the end of an era: Apple is officially discontinuing the iPod touch. The company says that the device will be available only “while supplies last.” This also means that the “iPod” brand is officially retired, as the iPod touch was the last iPod in Apple’s lineup.
It’s the end of an era for a product that was once one of the most popular gadgets in the world.
iPod touch discontinued: Available ‘while supplies last’
The first iPod touch was introduced in 2007 and was an instant hit among buyers who wanted the iPhone form factor without cellular functionality. The device saw regular updates for years, but as the iPhone become more widespread, Apple’s focus shifted.
The current seventh-generation iPod touch was introduced in 2019. It’s powered by an A10 Fusion chip that first debuted in the iPhone 7. It features a 4-inch display and is available in an array of colors. This, however, will be the end of the iPod touch.
Apple says the current iPod touch 7 will only be available “while supplies last.” This means the company has discontinued the iPod touch line. It’s the same approach it took when it also discontinued the iMac Pro and full-size HomePod.
Apple made the announcement in a press release curiously titled “The music lives on.” The press release explains that Apple users now enjoy their music via products like the iPhone, Apple Watch, Apple TV, and HomePod mini.
In a press release, Greg Joswiak, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing, explained that the “spirit of iPod” lives on in Apple’s current lineup of products.
Music has always been part of our core at Apple, and bringing it to hundreds of millions of users in the way iPod did impacted more than just the music industry – it also redefined how music is discovered, listened to, and shared. Today, the spirit of iPod lives on. We’ve integrated an incredible music experience across all of our products, from the iPhone to the Apple Watch to HomePod mini, and across Mac, iPad, and Apple TV. And Apple Music delivers industry-leading sound quality with support for spatial audio – there’s no better way to enjoy, discover, and experience music.
The discontinuation of the iPod touch isn’t a surprise to anyone, and we even pondered earlier this year whether the iPod touch 7 would be the final iPod ever released.
https://9to5mac.com/2022/05/10/apple-discontinues-ipod-touch/
Apple discontinues iPod touch, ending 20 year run of iconic ‘iPod’ brand
It’s the end of an era: Apple is officially discontinuing the iPod touch. The company says that the device will be available only “while supplies last.” This also means that the “iPod” brand is officially retired, as the iPod touch was the last iPod in Apple’s lineup.
It’s the end of an era for a product that was once one of the most popular gadgets in the world.
iPod touch discontinued: Available ‘while supplies last’
The first iPod touch was introduced in 2007 and was an instant hit among buyers who wanted the iPhone form factor without cellular functionality. The device saw regular updates for years, but as the iPhone become more widespread, Apple’s focus shifted.
The current seventh-generation iPod touch was introduced in 2019. It’s powered by an A10 Fusion chip that first debuted in the iPhone 7. It features a 4-inch display and is available in an array of colors. This, however, will be the end of the iPod touch.
Apple says the current iPod touch 7 will only be available “while supplies last.” This means the company has discontinued the iPod touch line. It’s the same approach it took when it also discontinued the iMac Pro and full-size HomePod.
Apple made the announcement in a press release curiously titled “The music lives on.” The press release explains that Apple users now enjoy their music via products like the iPhone, Apple Watch, Apple TV, and HomePod mini.
In a press release, Greg Joswiak, Apple’s senior vice president of Worldwide Marketing, explained that the “spirit of iPod” lives on in Apple’s current lineup of products.
Music has always been part of our core at Apple, and bringing it to hundreds of millions of users in the way iPod did impacted more than just the music industry – it also redefined how music is discovered, listened to, and shared. Today, the spirit of iPod lives on. We’ve integrated an incredible music experience across all of our products, from the iPhone to the Apple Watch to HomePod mini, and across Mac, iPad, and Apple TV. And Apple Music delivers industry-leading sound quality with support for spatial audio – there’s no better way to enjoy, discover, and experience music.
The discontinuation of the iPod touch isn’t a surprise to anyone, and we even pondered earlier this year whether the iPod touch 7 would be the final iPod ever released.
https://9to5mac.com/2022/05/10/apple-discontinues-ipod-touch/
The music lives on
Since its introduction over 20 years ago, iPod has captivated users all over the world who love the ability to take their music with them on the go.
www.apple.com