Iran agents 'planned US terror attacks'

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Have you read the article that I provided a link to?

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How on earth do you miss the oozing sarcasm in the excerpt in any case? :p

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Wait, are you being sarcastic?

Too many layers of sarcasm to deal with! :(

Sorry man been drinking so you can understand how it can happen :D. F I thought OMFG no not copa as well :(. Glad to see that BS was not for real bwhahhaha :D phew. Well your feelings i can believe that some stupid American (government official) is claiming iran is in mexico to be legit.

Due to the USA lying over Iraq, who can believe them anymore. Osama might be dead but with all the civil liberties being taken from the people in the US he should have a smile on his face in hell.

Yup iraq opened all 3 of my eyes. You cannot lie like that and get away with it and they did :eek:. From that moment my entire belief system of good and bad changed i thought they were the good guys until that moment.
 
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Sorry man been drinking so you can understand how it can happen :D. F I thought OMFG no not copa as well :(. Glad to see that BS was not for real bwhahhaha :D phew. Well your feelings i can believe that some stupid American (government official) is claiming iran is in mexico to be legit.

Good god killa, I didn't even bother reading any news reports about this thing in the first place, I knew it would be a bunch of insipid fail, and unless Glenn Greenwald is grievously mistaken (not something I've seen as of yet), it clearly was a bunch of festering testicles.

Read the whole article when you are sober, he gives a scathing account of the situation.
 
Yup iraq opened all 3 of my eyes

3rd eye? I get a feeling I'll regret asking...

From that moment my entire belief system of good and bad changed i thought they were the good guys until that moment.

Same here, I did not care about politics until I realised that disinformation and misinformation was a very real thing, been a skeptic about everything since then.
 
Good god killa, I didn't even bother reading any news reports about this thing in the first place, I knew it would be a bunch of insipid fail, and unless Glenn Greenwald is grievously mistaken (not something I've seen as of yet), it clearly was a bunch of festering testicles.

Read the whole article when you are sober, he gives a scathing account of the situation.

LOL ya i will he just looks like he wants to BS people hahah :D got one those i am gonna BS you faces like bush had.. Reading a bit now i see how it went down, didn't read after the first part but i will check it out.

Nobody is going to believe him though the US has spoken and they only speak da trooooff and nothing but da troooooff :D. No my dronkness has nothing to do with the bad errors :D. It would have helped had i read further down sorry copa. Anyhow boy am i glad though :D thought copa had been flipped turned upside down :p
 
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LOL ya i will he just looks like he wants to BS people hahah :D got one those i am gonna BS you faces like bush had.. Reading a bit now i see how it went down, didn't read after the first part but i will check it out.

Nobody is going to believe him though the US has spoken and they only speak da trooooff and nothing but da troooooff :D. No my dronkness has nothing to do with the bad errors :D. It would have helped had i read further down sorry copa.

Just to be clear, this picture:

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Is Eric Holder, The US attorney-general, otherwise known as 'the guy doing the bull****ting'.

This:

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Is the guy who wrote the article I linked to.

Glenn Greenwald (email: [email protected]) was previously a constitutional law and civil rights litigator in New York. He is the author of two New York Times Bestselling books: "How Would a Patriot Act?" (May, 2006), a critique of the Bush administration's use of executive power, and "A Tragic Legacy" (June, 2007), which examines the Bush legacy. His next book, "With Liberty and Justice for Some," examines the American two-tiered justice system, and will be released on October 25 by Holt/Metropolitan books."

No more drinking and politics for you, young man!
 
Is Eric Holder, The US attorney-general, otherwise known as 'the guy doing the bull****ting'.

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Is the guy who wrote the article I linked to.



No more drinking and politics for you, young man!

LOL in all fairness i only saw the dodgy looking oke :D.
 
Just more bull***** to go to war with Iran. A bit like the WMD spin they spewed before going into Iraq. Oh well, I'm not complaining. I want this war.
 
Just more bull***** to go to war with Iran. A bit like the WMD spin they spewed before going into Iraq. Oh well, I'm not complaining. I want this war.

Thought you believe in the religion of peace. Wouldn't you then want peace instead of war ?

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That's not a terrorist attack it's an assassination attempt there's a big difference.
 
Thought you believe in the religion of peace. Wouldn't you then want peace instead of war ?

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Thought the US was a democratic state? So much for these guys getting a legitimate trial before being dismissed as Iranian shiah, Mexican drug cartel, terror wielding agents?
What's your point?

This war is good. Iran should attack the occupiers. Indeed, Islam is a religion of peace, again, that doesn't mean we're going to roll over when the Zionists repeatedly contravene the laws of war and repeatedly show total disregard for international law.

So let's have this war.
 
UPDATE IV: On Good Morning America this morning, Joe Biden warned that “the Iranians are going to have to be held accountable” and “nothing has been taken off the table,” and then promised: “And when you see the case presented you will find there is compelling evidence for the assertion being made.” Except — after 24 hours of media hysteria — there’s this Reuters article, which — under the headline “Officials concede gaps in U.S. knowledge of Iran plot” — reports:

Iran’s supreme leader and the shadowy Quds Force covert operations unit were likely aware of an alleged plot to kill Saudi Arabia’s ambassador to the United States, but hard evidence of that is scant, U.S. officials said on Wednesday.

The United States does not have solid information about “exactly how high it goes,” one official said. . . .The U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said their confidence that at least some Iranian leaders were aware of the alleged plot was based largely on analyses and their understanding of how the Quds Force operates.


I wouldn’t exactly call that — what was the phrase Biden used? — “compelling evidence for the assertions being made.” In fact, it reminds me of the language anonymous government officials began using to describe their “knowledge” of Anwar Awlaki’s alleged operational role in plots against the U.S. once they killed him: “patchy”; “partial”; “suspicion.” But what we learned with Awlaki is likely what we’ll see here: many people reflexively believe government accusations even when unaccompanied by evidence, and that belief is not diluted even when government officials began acknowledging (albeit anonymously) that they do not possess and never did possess any conclusive evidence to support their accusations.

What a load of festering testicles.
 
Some analysts skeptical of alleged Iranian plot

1. The alleged plot doesn't fit Iran's style

In the 32-year history of the Islamic Republic of Iran, its Quds Force -- the branch implicated in the alleged plot -- has never been publicly linked to an assassination plot or an attack on U.S. soil. In cases where Quds Force members have been accused of plotting attacks, they had gone to great lengths to cover their tracks and hire proxy groups of the highest caliber, like the Lebanese Hezbollah.

Hiring an Iranian-American used-car salesman who, according to investigators, openly talked about his connections to the Iranian military and brazenly made a $100,000 wire transfer doesn't fit the Quds Force's modus operandi, analysts say.
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Cohen: No surprise Iranians in denial
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Suspect in alleged terror plot missing

"It would be completely uncharacteristic for Iran to be caught red-handed," former CIA operative Bob Baer told CNN.

"There are very few groups operationally better than Iran's Quds Force. They know what they are doing, The only proxies they use are ones they've vetted. They don't let their own citizens get involved."

2. Iran would lose more than it would gain

An assassination plot on U.S. soil would be costly for Iran, analysts say, inviting further sanctions and isolation by the international community, and perhaps military action as well.

"What we've seen unfold makes no sense in terms of Iran's national security strategy," says Hillary Mann Leverett, who was an adviser on Iran in former President George W. Bush's administration.

"There's no benefit; there's no payoff in them pursuing this kind of hit against Adel Jubeir. And it runs contrary to their entire national security strategy."

3. Iran has much easier targets to go after

Iran has potential U.S. and Saudi targets in its own backyard. In fact, Iran's Quds Force is frequently accused of waging proxy wars against U.S. troops in neighboring Iraq and Afghanistan and against Saudi interests in places like Bahrain.

The notion that Iran's potential targets in its own backyard were not enough, and that its Quds Force was therefore compelled to carry out a plot on U.S. soil seems far-fetched, analysts say.

4. Iran is gaining in stature and isn't desperate for drastic measures

Analysts say Iran has emerged as an undeniable power broker in the Middle East due in large part to the U.S.-led elimination of two of its key enemies in the last decade -- Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq and the Afghan Taliban regime in Afghanistan.

Tehran's political and economic sway in the region is greater than ever and it has solidified its role as a critical actor involving nearly all the major issues in the region, including the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the futures of Iraq and Afghanistan, the price of oil and nuclear energy.

Analysts say a seemingly drastic measure like an assassination plot on U.S. soil might perhaps make sense for a country desperate for attention, but not for Iran.

"This would be such a significant departure for the Iranian government to be involved in a plot like this, it really warrants our toughest questions and scrutiny," says Leverett.

5. The alleged plot is full of holes

There seem to be too many unanswered questions at this point to conclude that this plot was conceived by the Iranian government or the leaders of the Quds Force.

Consider the following statements by U.S. officials: When asked if the "upper reaches" of the Iranian government knew about the alleged plot, Attorney General Eric Holder said, "We are not making that charge at this point."

A senior law enforcement official told CNN, "Holder was not alleging that the highest levels officials in Iran were involved."

Another senior U.S. official told CNN, "Given how compartmentalized the Iranians are, it is unclear how wide knowledge of and approval (of the alleged plot) was within the Iranian government."


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/12/us/analysis-iran-saudi-plot/index.html?hpt=wo_c1
 
Yup good article cnn, pretty obvious the US is setting up iran but i just wonder why they don't hire people who can come up with a better story.

Sad when a country can lie over and over to the world and get away with it.

This setup reminds of that IMF setup, piss poor story full of holes.
 
Yup good article cnn, pretty obvious the US is setting up iran but i just wonder why they don't hire people who can come up with a better story.

Sad when a country can lie over and over to the world and get away with it.

This setup reminds of that IMF setup, piss poor story full of holes.

How dare you insult the pioneers of democracy?(And the home of the jerry springer show:/). Don't you know that all they're after are the "big bad muslim terrorists that kill civilians all the time from behind the skirts of women and children"? You are committing a small holocaust with your critique, you anti-semite!
 
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The way this thread is going you'd think Dubya and his Christian crusader, oil stealing, greedy capitalist bastard neo-cons were still in power. What happened to hope and change and Nobel peace prize winning enlightenment :erm:

What next the seas are still rising?
 
LOL

They lied about this, they lied about nukes in iraq, makes you wonder what else they have lied about.
 
The way this thread is going you'd think Dubya and his Christian crusader, oil stealing, greedy capitalist bastard neo-cons were still in power. What happened to hope and change and Nobel peace prize winning enlightenment :erm:

What next the seas are still rising?

When it comes to American foreign policy on the middle east, there is no left wing, right wing. There's just one wing, and that's AIPAC.
 
When it comes to American foreign policy on the middle east, there is no left wing, right wing. There's just one wing, and that's AIPAC.

Ah yes the janitors eh Jews who control the WH

[video=youtube;wAHHmHBWQN4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAHHmHBWQN4&feature=related[/video]
 
Some analysts skeptical of alleged Iranian plot

1. The alleged plot doesn't fit Iran's style

In the 32-year history of the Islamic Republic of Iran, its Quds Force -- the branch implicated in the alleged plot -- has never been publicly linked to an assassination plot or an attack on U.S. soil. In cases where Quds Force members have been accused of plotting attacks, they had gone to great lengths to cover their tracks and hire proxy groups of the highest caliber, like the Lebanese Hezbollah.

Hiring an Iranian-American used-car salesman who, according to investigators, openly talked about his connections to the Iranian military and brazenly made a $100,000 wire transfer doesn't fit the Quds Force's modus operandi, analysts say.
Fmr. diplomat: Iran plot makes no sense
Cohen: No surprise Iranians in denial
Iran plot suspect: Guy named 'Jack'
Suspect in alleged terror plot missing

"It would be completely uncharacteristic for Iran to be caught red-handed," former CIA operative Bob Baer told CNN.

"There are very few groups operationally better than Iran's Quds Force. They know what they are doing, The only proxies they use are ones they've vetted. They don't let their own citizens get involved."

2. Iran would lose more than it would gain

An assassination plot on U.S. soil would be costly for Iran, analysts say, inviting further sanctions and isolation by the international community, and perhaps military action as well.

"What we've seen unfold makes no sense in terms of Iran's national security strategy," says Hillary Mann Leverett, who was an adviser on Iran in former President George W. Bush's administration.

"There's no benefit; there's no payoff in them pursuing this kind of hit against Adel Jubeir. And it runs contrary to their entire national security strategy."

3. Iran has much easier targets to go after

Iran has potential U.S. and Saudi targets in its own backyard. In fact, Iran's Quds Force is frequently accused of waging proxy wars against U.S. troops in neighboring Iraq and Afghanistan and against Saudi interests in places like Bahrain.

The notion that Iran's potential targets in its own backyard were not enough, and that its Quds Force was therefore compelled to carry out a plot on U.S. soil seems far-fetched, analysts say.

4. Iran is gaining in stature and isn't desperate for drastic measures

Analysts say Iran has emerged as an undeniable power broker in the Middle East due in large part to the U.S.-led elimination of two of its key enemies in the last decade -- Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq and the Afghan Taliban regime in Afghanistan.

Tehran's political and economic sway in the region is greater than ever and it has solidified its role as a critical actor involving nearly all the major issues in the region, including the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the futures of Iraq and Afghanistan, the price of oil and nuclear energy.

Analysts say a seemingly drastic measure like an assassination plot on U.S. soil might perhaps make sense for a country desperate for attention, but not for Iran.

"This would be such a significant departure for the Iranian government to be involved in a plot like this, it really warrants our toughest questions and scrutiny," says Leverett.

5. The alleged plot is full of holes

There seem to be too many unanswered questions at this point to conclude that this plot was conceived by the Iranian government or the leaders of the Quds Force.

Consider the following statements by U.S. officials: When asked if the "upper reaches" of the Iranian government knew about the alleged plot, Attorney General Eric Holder said, "We are not making that charge at this point."

A senior law enforcement official told CNN, "Holder was not alleging that the highest levels officials in Iran were involved."

Another senior U.S. official told CNN, "Given how compartmentalized the Iranians are, it is unclear how wide knowledge of and approval (of the alleged plot) was within the Iranian government."


http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/12/us/analysis-iran-saudi-plot/index.html?hpt=wo_c1

Yeah, well said. This makes sense.
 
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