Ah for goodness sake: it has been stated over and over again by experts in the know that Iran is years (like 15) away from a nuclear bomb: if they wanted such a thing. And note, ONE bomb not a nuclear bomb industry. If they can only build ONE BOMB without massive investment in equipment (obvious to all, which is years away) then how are they going to give bombs to terrorist groups?! Other weapon systems? Haahaha. An AK47 and perhaps RPG's. Please catch a wakeup, and stop feeding on lies!! (Does your hate give you some satisfaction?)
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So you say that Iran will make ONE BOMB and then sit back and be satisfied? Am I talking to naive old ladies here?
Which part of my post don't you understand? 15 years away from a bomb, with investment in extremely specialised machinery. Any sooner even more of the same. Patently obvious to the world, the same as the paper trail on Iraq (which GB would rather forget about.) But let's lie and build imaginary enemies so much better.
Who is the primary nuclear power, ergo who is the greatest threat?!
Its got nothing to do with goodwill, only actions and consequences. The people who sit at the top of these networks have no desire to die, that is why they send their footsoldiers and keep themselves safely hidden.
What threat is that then?
15 years is your own estimate. Many estimates propose much shorter periods.
Do you really say that the West is a greater threat to peace than Iran would be when sitting on a couple of bombs?
Are you making a joke about "An AK47 and perhaps RPG's" ? Did you follow the Lebanon war and notice the weapons that Iran gave to Hezbollah? Do you think Ahmadenijad made a good-natured joke when he said that Israel should be wiped off the map? Did the US or any Western country ever make such a threat?
Do you really say that the West is a greater threat to peace than Iran would be when sitting on a couple of bombs?
Are you making a joke about "An AK47 and perhaps RPG's" ? Did you follow the Lebanon war and notice the weapons that Iran gave to Hezbollah? Do you think Ahmadenijad made a good-natured joke when he said that Israel should be wiped off the map? Did the US or any Western country ever make such a threat?
killadoob
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firslty IC i think IRAN want the US to attack them and start JIHAD
i was speaking about blowing up their nuclear places
The US is worse than IRAN if they had just left IRAQ alone none of this would have happened
We all know what happened on sep 11 it was not the ppl who the US say it was it was themselves, just watch the movies, the obvious facts
when an economy is going backwards, war is one really fast way to boost it
i was speaking about blowing up their nuclear places
The US is worse than IRAN if they had just left IRAQ alone none of this would have happened
We all know what happened on sep 11 it was not the ppl who the US say it was it was themselves, just watch the movies, the obvious facts
when an economy is going backwards, war is one really fast way to boost it
No we obviously all don't know what happened. I have seen the movies and the supposed facts and I, like the majority of the world, was not impressed to say the least with the conspiracy theorists claims. But lets not open that old can of worms again.
As for iran - I very much doubt there are any in power there that really want to get into a hot war with the US. Most of it is just posturing - just like the US. Bush is a lame duck and it is highly unlikely that the republicans will win the next election and if they do it would most likely be on the Giuliani ticket and I don't see him starting a war with iran. Time will tell eventually but I very much doubt it.
marine1
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Icyrus - i agree with you. I have watched that footage a thousand times and feel that these guys just hate the US so much they will say or do anything to try and prove it was a set up. Same guys hear heavy breathing on the other end of their phones.
Do right wing zealots have the inborn ability not to use a search engine or recognise a lie?
Simple search: "iran years from nuclear weapon"
Most extreme scenario (by an American Think Tank: yah, right, oxymoron right there: 2 to 3 years using highly specialised equipment that leaves a very clear paper trail, ie, impossible.) And even these scare tactics use ONE Bomb, hahaha, ONE BOMB but they're going to give it away. Hahahaha, funnier by the minute. Not.
As to hezbollah and lebanon: same logic applies, ie, you have none.
and BTW: neither Iran nor Iraq had anything to do with 911. Swimming in lies, what's the rest of your life like?
Simple search: "iran years from nuclear weapon"
Most extreme scenario (by an American Think Tank: yah, right, oxymoron right there: 2 to 3 years using highly specialised equipment that leaves a very clear paper trail, ie, impossible.) And even these scare tactics use ONE Bomb, hahaha, ONE BOMB but they're going to give it away. Hahahaha, funnier by the minute. Not.
As to hezbollah and lebanon: same logic applies, ie, you have none.
and BTW: neither Iran nor Iraq had anything to do with 911. Swimming in lies, what's the rest of your life like?
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Xarog
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OK, let's say they get a nuke, what then? Iran is the most peaceful country in the region. The last time they were involved in a war was in the 1980s if you read the article in the OP, and that war was started when Saddam Hussein tried to invade Iran. Now suddenly you're trying to tell us that Iran represents a grave threat to global stability. Yeah right
Next on the list : Why should Iran not give Hezbollah weapons if America gives Israel weapons? Hezbollah at least tried to aim their rockets at military targets. Israel on the other hand went on an indiscriminate bombing rampage. In the last days of the war when they KNEW that the war was coming to an end they dropped 3 million cluster bomblets over southern Lebanon, and they purposefully aimed them in trajectories designed to MAXIMISE the number of bomblets that did not explode on impact. There are now 1 million landmines in the form of unexploded bombs waiting to be disturbed by Lebanese civilians. Who's the bigger monster?
And as for the remark about wiping Israel off the map : If I've said it once I've said it a million times, Ahamadinejad said no such thing. The reports that he did are nothing more than war propaganda based off of a mistranslation of his actual words. What he actually said was, "Israel should dissappear off the page of time", which although unfriendly, does not carry any threat in it whatsoever.
And lastly regarding what remarks western nations have made : What does it matter what they have said? Watch what they do. Judge a man (and a nation) by his actions not his words. The west has a pretty disgusting reputation at the moment.
marine1
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They peacefull now as they are mainly involved in sponsoring terrorism and thats taking up all their time and is probably more effective than any way they could start.
Wait until they get the nuke - then they are on the playing field with the big boys and cannot be threatened so easy.
Wait until they get the nuke - then they are on the playing field with the big boys and cannot be threatened so easy.
So let's nuke them. You lot are pitiful. Make the problem then blame 'the enemy.'
Fools make wars, which side are you on?
/ja, me, my neighbour and I are all converting to muslim. Pleaze, listen to yourselves!
//if they want to be wiped off the face of the map let them ask nicely, instead of this endless bullsh#t rhetoric from George Bush//
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marine1
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I say lets nuke them first 
: Just kidding
: Just kiddingkilladoob
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IC correct me if im wrong, but werent the republicans contemplating bringing back the draft?
now if they didnt want war why would they bring back the draft?
im not saying the bill will go through but thats something they are thinking about
Dont think for a second that its only the dems like bush that want war
Thoughout history america has gotten involved in conflicts it didnt need to and i dont think that trend will ever change
You are all forgetten North Korea here, They will get involved for sure and they have nukes
Then there are the russian, which way would they go?
Remember one thing about these radical muslims they dont care about dying
The US can fight a conventional war very easily like in Iraq, but when anyone can be an enemy what do you do? After the big fighting was done, look at the number of ppl and troops dying on daily basis and its getting worse
Dont underestimate the power of these radical muslims, they dont have the fire power to fight yes but they do the mentality
anyways im talkin to much haha
now if they didnt want war why would they bring back the draft?
im not saying the bill will go through but thats something they are thinking about
Dont think for a second that its only the dems like bush that want war
Thoughout history america has gotten involved in conflicts it didnt need to and i dont think that trend will ever change
You are all forgetten North Korea here, They will get involved for sure and they have nukes
Then there are the russian, which way would they go?
Remember one thing about these radical muslims they dont care about dying
The US can fight a conventional war very easily like in Iraq, but when anyone can be an enemy what do you do? After the big fighting was done, look at the number of ppl and troops dying on daily basis and its getting worse
Dont underestimate the power of these radical muslims, they dont have the fire power to fight yes but they do the mentality
anyways im talkin to much haha
marine1
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Well said.
Where did I say you must nuke them because of that
Only fools believe you can avoid war becuase you fear it or are repulsed by it.
But you are right. Those Islamic fundamentalists were foolish to make war with the U.S. Or were they
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Painting everyone with the same brush are we? Not every Islamic fundamentalist declared war on the U.S., FYI. The Iranian would be one of the nots.But you are right. Those Islamic fundamentalists were foolish to make war with the U.S. Or were they
That said, the USA would be stupid to attack them now. Iran is a united nation, unlike Iraq was. Iran's people will defend their country from an invasion. Right now Ahamadinejad has got alot of internal opposition. Maybe people don't like the way he's been fearmongering to the people about the US. If the US attacks they just prove him right and he'll become massively popular overnight - just like what happened when the Israelis tried to take on Hezbollah (Nasrallah is without doubt the single most popular person in Lebanese politics today). His oppononents will fade into the background and the Arab world will see him as a hero.
America might manage to launch a successful bombing campaign against a few key targets. But they will have to put ground troops on the floor. Iran is no pushover. They have been preparing for this. They have not been saddled with 10 years of crippling sanctions and constant bombing. The US will not be able to hold Iran. If the USA invades Iran then the Shiites in Iraq will rise up en masse against the US too - the current US forces will have no way of defending themselves against such an uprising - how does anyone in the US expect the US army/marines/whatever to be able to hold two countries when the minority of 1 country is giving the current standing army a damned good run for their money?
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
Thats childish and there is no need for it.
Last I heard that was just propaganda and there was no real substance to any of those claims. If you have some evidence please provide it.
Why would either get directly involved, there is nothing to gain.
The uneducated, brainwashed foot soldier may be talked into dying for someone else's cause but the higher ups want to continue living - I can assure you that much.