Is Facebook worth US$50-billion?

I'm sure I read their returns were better than analysts thought. Hell, I think they even turned a profit recently :D
 
+1 Overvalued, the think they are still operating in the age of the IT bubble :D
 
umm i loooove thier maths, but what i would like to know can you eat shares ?
 
$50B is more than Boeing with 120,000 employees and who manufactures 75% of the world aircraft.

Yeah, $50B is BS.
 
$50B is more than Boeing with 120,000 employees and who manufactures 75% of the world aircraft.

Yeah, $50B is BS.

Does Boeing have the contact details for 97% of hot chicks on earth?
 
I see a few sides to this.

- Facebook is VERY well run. Say what you want, but Mark Zuckerberg has done an absolutely impeccable, incredible job, and as long he can stay focused running the show, Facebook will keep ahead of its game.
- Facebook are making a decent profit already.
- Recovering this money by looking only at their current profits is misleading. If you looked the early days of Google's growth, it was exponential. And remained so. Facebook's revenue and profits are also growing exponentially. It won't take 25 years to break even on investment at those prices, more like 5, and probably less, as investment money allows them to do even more and scale their growth faster. Also, similar strong fundamentals that drove Google's exponential growth, are in place at Facebook.
- 600 million users and growing, they're almost at 10% of the planet's population. In another year or two, they'll top 1 billion, and if they keep playing their cards right, who knows.

I certainly think there is strong potential for Facebook to deliver that value to investors.

On the flip side, Goldman Sachs appear to be bedroom-buddies with the Fed, so this is probably partially funded on borrowed newly minted money from the Fed's "stimulus". IOW their special friends at the Fed give them inflation-funded money, and all they need to do is beat government interest rates (which are 0%, so not hard) in the private securities market, pay back, and they get to keep the difference, nice business model eh? And if they lose, no problem, the losses are socialized. In other words, this isn't entirely "real money" they're investing, and the downshot of that as far as Facebook's valuation is concerned is that it means that part of the valuation includes a speculative component - i.e. there may be a tech bubble here driven by easy credit from the Fed - in which case they may be overvalued, and the next market correction could see them take a hit. The only question is, how much of the valuation is speculative and driven by easy money (yes, the same easy money that got the world into the financial mess, because little has changed at the top). Still, Facebook would be in a good position relative to its industry peers even after a market tumble - a popping bubble wouldn't destroy them, just hurt them, and Zuckerberg is smart and good with money. My advice to Zuckerberg, 'don't spend it all at once'.
 
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From a marketing point of view, do any of you know how many people are actually using FB?

That in itself should be worth a few Billion ;)
 
I know exactly three people who use Facebook. I was on it for 3 days trying to locate school mates - gave up and deleted my account.
 
I know exactly three people who use Facebook. I was on it for 3 days trying to locate school mates - gave up and deleted my account.

I agree it's not that big in SA. I only use it for friends as well. But it's MASSIVE in the States, Europe and the likes. Facebook, is insanely huge and those numbers add up when it comes to marketing revenue.
 
... you can checkout anytime you like - but you can never leave!

Seriously though - only three?
Among my friends I know of three that are on facebook because they told me so. If there are more, so be it. Strangely enough, I know a lot of people who's never been on it, and/or who have a total lack of interest in it.
 
It's all hype and sentiment. I wouldn't 1% of that price for it, but I am not great on the concept of FB.
 
To put it in perspective Google is apparently worth $200bn. Gauging worth by the number of employees is not very helpful, as they represent costs, not necessarily direct and future income streams.

Theoretically, the worth of a company is the present of value of all future dividends. Somewhere between its intrinsic value (which for Facebook would be quite low) and its potential value (or perhaps in this case hype). The value of a company is like the length of a piece of string. You can argue almost any length you like because the value represents so many unknowns.

A lot of people in this thread say Facebook is not worth $50bn, but how many would be prepared to short it at that price? Not I.
 
FB is a load of Horsesheit. Place all your personal stuff on the Net. Nah. Idiots will do this without blinking. Anyway...just my opinion. FB ...Loads of Horsesheit.
 
- Facebook are making a decent profit already.

Those figures are not audited. They mean nothing. Was all of the hardware they have purchased written off or none of it? There are hundreds of other questions. Are people being paid in share options instead of salaries? What contracts have they signed which can impact their financials in the future.

- Recovering this money by looking only at their current profits is misleading. If you looked the early days of Google's growth, it was exponential. And remained so. Facebook's revenue and profits are also growing exponentially. It won't take 25 years to break even on investment at those prices, more like 5, and probably less, as investment money allows them to do even more and scale their growth faster. Also, similar strong fundamentals that drove Google's exponential growth, are in place at Facebook.

Why are people are selling shares in FB then? It does not make sense. They would rather just hold on to the shares themselves. Google took a long time to make decent profits. You can't compare the two.

- 600 million users and growing, they're almost at 10% of the planet's population. In another year or two, they'll top 1 billion, and if they keep playing their cards right, who knows.

Again, thats what FB says. How many unique, active users?
 
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