Is porn bad?

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I got this Idea from this post:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...l-play-games?p=8116392&viewfull=1#post8116392


I recall a time, when you had to go to the store the buy a pornography magazine, to view a naked lady. It was not something most young guys wanted to do out of embarrassment of having to buy it from the sales clerk. Now, a simple google search is all you need to see the most illicit things, that could never even be printed on paper and sold. I recently decided to completely stop watching porn, and see if I feel a difference, and I have come to the conclusion that porn desensitises you.

For one, the bar for sexual pleasure is set much higher. Symptoms of this can be not experiencing any/much pleasure when you are having sex, or finishing after 2 minutes. Maybe even erectile dysfunction. But as soon as you stop watching, the opposite occurs imo, as your hormones get pent up, you get a higher desire to have sex, you will be more motivated to go out and get it. When I stopped watching, my sex life improved. I was not content with chilling at home even on a Wednesday night. I would go out, with the sole intention of getting laid. And with that motivation, came success.

Very related: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zif0_60b3WU
 
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I think I may have sent across the wrong message with that thread. I'm not some fat virgin nerd sitting in a basement. But that doesn't mean I spend every weekend drinking at a bar either or go clubbing. I've had sex with a few girls in my life, but I don't think watching porn changed me in any way.

I feel like a murderer being interviewed :confused:

Anyways, I can respect a healthy discussion. So if this thread does prove that masturbation & porn = bad then I guess I'll learn something.
 
InternetSwag said:
I think I may have sent across the wrong message with that thread. I'm not some fat virgin nerd sitting in a basement. But that doesn't mean I spend every weekend drinking at a bar either or go clubbing. I've had sex with a few girls in my life, but I don't think watching porn changed me in any way.

I feel like a murderer being interviewed :confused:

Anyways, I can respect a healthy discussion. So if this thread does prove that masturbation & porn = bad then I guess I'll learn something.
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Not at all, your post just got me thinking. And I have been thinking about this subject for some time. You said watching porn is a normal thing, I simply want to question that. So I put it to you MYBB, is watching porn a normal thing? Would you be better in certain areas of your life if you didnt watch?
 
you will be more motivated to go out and get it
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... and the rapes skyrocketed and people wondered why...

If you go out to get laid, you will get laid. If you stay in and watch porn (or do anything except go out), the probability to get laid drops down to 0. So obviously your sex life improved. Your argument is a bit wonky IMO... read on to see why

From my perspective, the desire to have sex has nothing to do with if you watch porn or not and more to do with if you're satisfied or not. If I masturbate (with the help of porn or just my own imagination), I'm satisfied, and BIOLOGICALLY I will have less desire to have sex. So another flaw in your argument there. (I've never had the desire to have sex after I ejaculated, takes at least a few minutes for that desire to return, and it's AS strong as the previous one. I might not be normal, don't know)

So to me it's not your porn that is impacting your drive for sex and to get action.... it's simply masturbation. Porn leads to masturbation (of course) and those without imagination needs it.... or rephrase, those who stopped using their imagination because they have moving pictures now.
 
AcidRaZor said:
... and the rapes skyrocketed and people wondered why...

If you go out to get laid, you will get laid. If you stay in and watch porn (or do anything except go out), the probability to get laid drops down to 0. So obviously your sex life improved. Your argument is a bit wonky IMO... read on to see why

From my perspective, the desire to have sex has nothing to do with if you watch porn or not and more to do with if you're satisfied or not. If I masturbate (with the help of porn or just my own imagination), I'm satisfied, and BIOLOGICALLY I will have less desire to have sex. So another flaw in your argument there. (I've never had the desire to have sex after I ejaculated, takes at least a few minutes for that desire to return, and it's AS strong as the previous one. I might not be normal, don't know)

So to me it's not your porn that is impacting your drive for sex and to get action.... it's simply masturbation. Porn leads to masturbation (of course) and those without imagination needs it.... or rephrase, those who stopped using their imagination because they have moving pictures now.
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Did you watch that video I linked? They prove that watching porn while masturbating will reduce your sex drive. If you do it regularly, it becomes an addiction, and your brain will compensate by numbing the response that porn normally did for you. Then, you get lucky one day and meet a girl, but mess it up because 1. Your sexual libido is lower. The women will pick that up. 2. You have already, in your mind, created an alternative to sex. Masturbation becomes the way to stop the craving, instead of doing the real thing. If masturbation never existed, that craving would need to be fulfilled else where. I fail to see the flaw in my argument, maybe you could watch that video and then explain to me where I went wrong?

I guess if your libido was so big, that no amount of porn could stop it, it wouldn't have any affect on your life. But in that case, you wouldn't waste your time watching it on the internet in the first place. Do you think the casinova's of today watch internet porn? Forget it, they are too busy getting laid. Im certain that for those times I used to watch porn, if I had stopped I would have had more sex. Luckily, I saw my mistake early on in life. There are guys that do it compulsively for years.
 
If I could shoot up heroin and show you how non-addictive my personality is, I would. It's probably just me. But I can watch porn/masturbate to it, and still have a high-enough desire to go out and get laid. HOWEVER. I don't. Nor do I watch porn religiously and neither do I masturbate as if there's a constant itch on my hand. It's just who I am. So it probably doesn't compute.

However, like I said. Watching porn and constantly masturbating ****s with your imagination. The less you have to think the harder it gets when you actually HAVE to think. It has nothing to do with porn itself.

Take math for example. Can you do simple multiplications in your head still... or do you whip out a calculator each time because it's easier?

You grew accustomed to having a calculator around all the time, so your brain got lazy and stopped trying to do the multiplications it learned while you were at school.

I think we both agree on some points, I just don't agree that porn is the cause for a person's sex life to take a dive if they don't want it to. Weak-minded people I'd go as far as to say.
 
It's a bit like asking is alcohol bad. The thing itself is not bad, it's addiction to the thing and more importantly the effects of the addiction.

I think it's fair to say that most guys of a certain age are addicted to porn to one degree or another these days but clearly not all of them are turning into masturbation addicts to the point where they can't socialise and don't have sex lives and girlfriends. I don't think porn addiction is any more likely to become problematic than food addiction is. Sure, food addiction is problematic but only dumb people approach it by trying to ban food.
 
I agree with AcidRaZor on this one. Porn might reduce my sex drive, but it last maybe half an hour, then I'm good to go again. So no negative side effects.

On the other hand, women hate me. Always have, always will, so nothing I do makes any difference to whether I get laid or not. If there was no porn there would be plenty more hookers out there because, and you will probably find this hard to believe crysis, but very few okes actually score regularly when they go out.
 
Drunkard #1 said:
On the other hand, women hate me. Always have, always will, so nothing I do makes any difference to whether I get laid or not. If there was no porn there would be plenty more hookers out there because, and you will probably find this hard to believe crysis, but very few okes actually score regularly when they go out.
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I can relate to this, sadly. Most guys are pretty much AFC's, that's where the "Average" part comes from.

Also, what Nick333 said. Porn isn't the problem, it's the addiction. Anything that takes over your life and affects your normal behaviour that much causes a problem, be it porn, alcohol, drugs, games, food, whatever. It's not the things that are intrinsically bad, just your obsession with them. Knee-jerk reactions like never using the items is a really stupid idea.
 
crysis said:
I got this Idea from this post:
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthr...l-play-games?p=8116392&viewfull=1#post8116392


I recall a time, when you had to go to the store the buy a pornography magazine, to view a naked lady. It was not something most young guys wanted to do out of embarrassment of having to buy it from the sales clerk. Now, a simple google search is all you need to see the most illicit things, that could never even be printed on paper and sold. I recently decided to completely stop watching porn, and see if I feel a difference, and I have come to the conclusion that porn desensitises you.

For one, the bar for sexual pleasure is set much higher. Symptoms of this can be not experiencing any/much pleasure when you are having sex, or finishing after 2 minutes. Maybe even erectile dysfunction. But as soon as you stop watching, the opposite occurs imo, as your hormones get pent up, you get a higher desire to have sex, you will be more motivated to go out and get it. When I stopped watching, my sex life improved. I was not content with chilling at home even on a Wednesday night. I would go out, with the sole intention of getting laid. And with that motivation, came success.

Very related: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zif0_60b3WU
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it does not desensitise you, it shows you that sex isn't such a big taboo in the first place. some people are nervous talking to strangers, avoiding movies and books doesn't take this nervousness away.

we watch porn for the same reason we listen to music and watch action movies, we want a surrogate emotion. some people have no choice but to look at porn too
 
Drunkard #1 said:
I agree with AcidRaZor on this one. Porn might reduce my sex drive, but it last maybe half an hour, then I'm good to go again. So no negative side effects.

......., but very few okes actually score regularly when they go out.
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I have looked at clean porn (ie. no kids or animals) since my teen years and it has done absolutely nothing to reduce my sex drive. I am still as horny as when I was seventeen and that is so far away that I wouldn't see it again if I looked through the Hubble telescope.

RE. but very few okes actually score regularly when they go out
That suggests one-night stands rather than a friend with benefits and if a woman will put out to a stranger one might as well use a prostitute where the chance of scoring is 100% - subject to financial liquidity. There cannot be much difference in the risk.
 
It sounds like all those commenting are single. I think porn is very damaging to a marriage. Sex doesn't happen every night and easy access to porn creates this outlet for pent up sexual energy coupled with a false idea of what a healthy sexual relationship should be. Lets face it, your wife is not always a 'Jenna Jameson', its not happening every hour in the kitchen, the garden, the beach, etc..... But in your now infected minds eye, you need someone like that, and I think it can cause you to either go in search of casual encounters like this, or sit in your porn cave bashing the bishop every hour, and ignoring you wifes needs and romance in a healthy married life. Much like a smoker needs a cigerette to give his hand something to do.
 
Well if porn reduces your drive to go out and pick up people for sex its not all bad.

For one you don't sleep around, so relationships is more than just sex and one night stands.
You are less likely to get AIDS or other STD's
The fact that you have less of a drive to go "Jolling" also increases your chances to live longer/healthier due to the fact that you drink less and not found drinking and driving among other things.

So end of the day, its not all bad and to be honest to make the final call needs more than just a because you masturbate you have less of a drive to pick up chick = bad overall comment.
 
I felt imprisoned inside my own mind back in the day when I was into porn, not profitable at all in the end.
 
thesuspect said:
It sounds like all those commenting are single. I think porn is very damaging to a marriage. Sex doesn't happen every night and easy access to porn creates this outlet for pent up sexual energy coupled with a false idea of what a healthy sexual relationship should be. Lets face it, your wife is not always a 'Jenna Jameson', its not happening every hour in the kitchen, the garden, the beach, etc..... But in your now infected minds eye, you need someone like that, and I think it can cause you to either go in search of casual encounters like this, or sit in your porn cave bashing the bishop every hour, and ignoring you wifes needs and romance in a healthy married life. Much like a smoker needs a cigerette to give his hand something to do.
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Porn isn't a problem, it is the person and the way in which they are consuming it. If it isn't kept a secret and viewed (or read if its erotic literature) with a partner, it can have some positive effects. If it becomes some dirty little secret then ofcourse it could become a problem or assist in warping a delusional persons sense of of reality.
 
Elimentals said:
Well if porn reduces your drive to go out and pick up people for sex its not all bad.

For one you don't sleep around, so relationships is more than just sex and one night stands.
You are less likely to get AIDS or other STD's
The fact that you have less of a drive to go "Jolling" also increases your chances to live longer/healthier due to the fact that you drink less and not found drinking and driving among other things.

So end of the day, its not all bad and to be honest to make the final call needs more than just a because you masturbate you have less of a drive to pick up chick = bad overall comment.
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Im just going to nitpick a little bit:

-I feel one night stands are a great way to meet new people. For one, you know quite quickly off the bat if you two will be compatible or not. No need for expensive dates and putting up with LMR again. If that person is great in every way, a relationship can always happen afterwards. Although one night stands are rare, meeting people and seeing them again later on is more common. So there is time to screen them, and if they don't disclose any information about whether or not they have a desiese, maybe they never would, for fear of rejection?

-Condoms are useful against not getting aids. I have a zero tolerance when it comes to that.

-You don't have to get drunk when you go out, and in fact, it doesn't have to be night time to go looking for women either.



Personally, I would rather risk getting aids, and die young, then live old and on my death bed regret what I did (or didnt do) in the past. I used to think that my current situation would improve in the future. I was always optimistic that women would just glide into my life, and every thing would be hunky dory. The reality however, is that I had to make some major changes, and put in the effort my self to get what I wanted.

Ultimately, this is purely my opinion. And I find it interesting to see what you folks have to say, so keep it coming! ;)
 
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