Is SEO dead?

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I feel lately, since September 2015 that SEO as we knew it is dead.

Your site is lost without Google adwords

Facebook's pages and general marketing potential also changed entirely unless you pay for it.

Feels to me the Web has made a fundamental change.

What are your thoughts and opinions on this particularly SEO in 2016
 
SEO standards still remain, but marketing has absorbed the role so if you're doing marketing SEO is now part of the job.
 
SEO standards still remain, but marketing has absorbed the role so if you're doing marketing SEO is now part of the job.

To amend that: Good SEO is now part of the job. Simple SEO is simply not enough anymore.
 
To amend that: Good SEO is now part of the job. Simple SEO is simply not enough anymore.

+1
Although I treat Google Adwords as a part of SEO nowadays. My low budget clients have to live without it though, and ranking high on google isn't impossible without it. Had a bicycle shop website get #1 ranking for the search query the client wanted a high ranking for - and it was achieved for a website completed on a VERY low budget... What made the difference was good content and a uniqueness. A client that has a trucking business (for example) and wants to rank high on google when someone types in "trucking company south africa" is going to get an adwords recommendation from me, without a second thought.
 
How does adwords help your seo/ranking?
Sounds akin to buying a ranking?
 
How does adwords help your seo/ranking?
Sounds akin to buying a ranking?

That is my whole point.

SEO is dead. Buying your pagerank and traffic is all that is left now.

Generic traffic gets purposefully hindered
 
Is this Googles masterplan coming to fruition?
 
SEO is not dead if you have really unique content on your website. It is websites with duplicate or re-written content, as well as cloned sites that are feeling the effects in SEO. Google warned about this many times, they have made numerous changes to their algorithms to address these type of websites.

I started a website three months ago. Totally unique content. Within a month I ranked high in Google without spending 1c on SEO or any type of marketing. I get around 20k-30k unique visitors from Google Search Engine alone per month. This is not a lot of traffic, but at least they convert to around US$ 900 in terms of subscription income for me per month, and additional R2k - R3k in terms of advertising revenue.

I am sure that by making use of Adwords I can up my subscription income as well as advertising income, but this is not necessary for me at this time.
 
SEO is not dead if you have really unique content on your website. It is websites with duplicate or re-written content, as well as cloned sites that are feeling the effects in SEO. Google warned about this many times, they have made numerous changes to their algorithms to address these type of websites.

I started a website three months ago. Totally unique content. Within a month I ranked high in Google without spending 1c on SEO or any type of marketing. I get around 20k-30k unique visitors from Google Search Engine alone per month. This is not a lot of traffic, but at least they convert to around US$ 900 in terms of subscription income for me per month, and additional R2k - R3k in terms of advertising revenue.

I am sure that by making use of Adwords I can up my subscription income as well as advertising income, but this is not necessary for me at this time.
What content does the site sell subscriptions for?
 
What content does the site sell subscriptions for?

Indexing and making searchable historical National Archives documents such as death certificates, marriage certificates, ship lists, estate records, grave yard records, war records, etc.
 
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SEO is not about gaming things.
Its simple common sense. Search engines like text. So give it to them.

Make sure image url's are verbose.

http://www.mysite.com/logo.jpg - Bad
http://www.mysite.com/product_xxx_cape_towns_best_blah_blah_blah_logo.jpg - Good

URL's - make sure they're meaningful for humans.

http://www.mysite.com/about.html - Bad
http://www.mysite.com/Information_a...le_exclusively_in_Cape_Town_South_Africa.html - better

alt tags - use them.
meta tags - use them (although they've been abused to all hell, so are worthless, but doesn't hurt to do it right).

Make sure that the pages on the site contains content that you want to be found by.
Look at the top few results for your query in google. What keywords do all the sites have in common?
Why are they there, vs another site?
Look at the top few results in another search engine. Repeat.

Think of different ways to describe things.

Use the tools Google and other Search engines provide.

Here's a good example of using those tools in exactly the right way - http://www.advancedwebranking.com/blog/google-didnt-want-us-to-use-the-keyword-planner-this-way/


Other important things - load times. If you can, use cloud based caching to improve load times.
This is very location sensitive though - if your clients are in different geographical locations, it may make things worse. Much worse.

If you have access to your server, I'd also look at some caching tools too. Google (again!), has a great apache/nginx module called pagespeed. I use it on some of my client's web servers.

Also look at your own webserver logging stats to see where people land, and how long they stay.
This will differ somewhat from Google Analytics, as Google Analytics is JS based, and doesn't always load reliably.

Some url's.
I've concentrated on google ones here, but each search engine has their own set of useful tools. Well worth doing the same things in different tools to get a different angle.

http://www.google.com/webmasters/ - webmaster tools
http://adwords.google.com/KeywordPlanner - use this to work out what to use in your page content.
https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/ - page speed load tools
http://www.google.com/analytics/ - logging, although use in conjunction with server based for real stats.

CDN
https://www.cloudflare.com/features-cdn/ (free)

Webserver Module
https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/module/


There are more things to do than this, but do the basics correctly, and you'll be improving your search results over 90% of the sites out there.
 
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I feel lately, since September 2015 that SEO as we knew it is dead.

This depends on how you knew and understood SEO. There are so many conflicting opinions and stances out there. But the situation we have today has been many years in the making, and it's what Google has been striving towards. Google's stated aim has always been to present searchers with the best possible result for their queries - having the most optimised site out there doesn't necessarily fit this definition.

They're also trying to reduce the number of factors that can be "gamed" - if you will - whereas in the good old days (all of 5 or 6 years ago) simply having a good volume of links pointing to your site was enough, even evaluating a potential link is now a critical skill. One decent link can easily outweigh thousands of crappy ones, simply because the SE discounts them. Keyword stuffing, cloaking, link wheels, link networks - all of these tactics are essentially useless.

Your site is lost without Google adwords

I disagree with this - up to a point. AdWords can definitely help boost a site's visibility - bid enough for a particular keyword and you'll appear at the top of the search engines even if your site doesn't really have the potential to rank. This is worth thinking about if you consider that the amount of real estate for organic results for certain searches have been reduced quite considerably.

And the sites that occupy those top spots are generally well-known for addressing searcher queries. For example - imagine you own a hotel in Cape Town. If a guy in Europe searches for a hotel in Cape Town, is he searching for your hotel. Or is he searching for possibilities and doing comparison.

Very likely the second option.

Google tries to guess searcher intent, and tries to deliver results that answer the intended query. Which is why, for the search above, you're going to see giants like TripAdvisor, SafariNow and Booking.com occupying the top organic spots. Although even those fall below the fold simply because Google has it's own comparison tool right there in the results page.

If he was searching for your hotel, why wasn't he using your hotel's name? Most likely because its a complete unknown, or it doesn't have a strong brand presence like the Mt Nelson, and a few others I could mention. But looking at that - you're suddenly not looking at SEO anymore at all - you're looking at a hell of a lot of other factors - brand strength and perception, user satisfaction and experience ... many of which aren't online components at all.

It's a very basic example, but the principles will hold for many sites, which is why digital/online marketing - just marketing in general - has become a lot more complicated than it used to be.

Facebook's pages and general marketing potential also changed entirely unless you pay for it.

I feel the need to add here that marketing on Facebook is not SEO, but SMM. There's a fundamental difference. But - you can apply SEO techniques to Facebook pages, which will help them to rank in search engines for specific searches related to your brand.

Your comment is fair though - the organic reach of Facebook pages have been shot to hell. You'll be lucky to earn 5% of the traffic from FB pages you managed in the past.

Feels to me the Web has made a fundamental change.

What are your thoughts and opinions on this particularly SEO in 2016

SEO is one single facet of a much larger discipline - which is marketing. People might be tempted to correct me there and say online/digital marketing, which is not wrong, but unfortunately, we're no longer in a space where we can ignore offline signals if they are present.

My personal feeling has always been that marketing is an art rather than a science - the art of capturing people's attention, engaging them, getting them to trust you. Once that level of trust is established, people will search for your brand, rather than doing generic searches for products or services. This is something which Takealot has managed spectacularly well - as has Amazon, many years before them.

It might surprise you to learn this, but Amazon is one of the biggest search engines. Simply because people know them and trust them, and when shopping, know they are likely to find what they are looking for there. So they'll search there - not in Google.

SEO is NOT dead. This claim gets made every year, and it gets debunked every year. But it is part of a much larger scheme of things, which will make it seem like it doesn't matter as much. You can't ignore it though. Where the function of SEO in the past was to push up your rankings, its now more a case of making sure your site meets the minimum requirements of being able to rank. SEO is there to put you in the race, but it puts everybody else who is conscious of it in the race as well, which means looking for new defining factors that will put you ahead of the rest of the pack.

It can be anything. Awesome products, amazing service, and epic marketing campaign that gets everybody to sit up and look. But SEO by itself is not going to get a site performing like you want it to.

A final point. Forget about Page Rank. It's a completely useless metric, and has been for many years. The toolbar page rank we have access to get updated erratically, and if Google even still uses PR as a metric, they're not using the numbers we have access to.

This has turned into quite a ramble - I suspect I may have jumped around a bit. If you need any clarification on any of the points I made, I will try to do so when I have a moment to spare.
 
This depends on how you knew and understood SEO. There are so many conflicting opinions and stances out there. But the situation we have today has been many years in the making, and it's what Google has been striving towards. Google's stated aim has always been to present searchers with the best possible result for their queries - having the most optimised site out there doesn't necessarily fit this definition.

They're also trying to reduce the number of factors that can be "gamed" - if you will - whereas in the good old days (all of 5 or 6 years ago) simply having a good volume of links pointing to your site was enough, even evaluating a potential link is now a critical skill. One decent link can easily outweigh thousands of crappy ones, simply because the SE discounts them. Keyword stuffing, cloaking, link wheels, link networks - all of these tactics are essentially useless.



I disagree with this - up to a point. AdWords can definitely help boost a site's visibility - bid enough for a particular keyword and you'll appear at the top of the search engines even if your site doesn't really have the potential to rank. This is worth thinking about if you consider that the amount of real estate for organic results for certain searches have been reduced quite considerably.

And the sites that occupy those top spots are generally well-known for addressing searcher queries. For example - imagine you own a hotel in Cape Town. If a guy in Europe searches for a hotel in Cape Town, is he searching for your hotel. Or is he searching for possibilities and doing comparison.

Very likely the second option.

Google tries to guess searcher intent, and tries to deliver results that answer the intended query. Which is why, for the search above, you're going to see giants like TripAdvisor, SafariNow and Booking.com occupying the top organic spots. Although even those fall below the fold simply because Google has it's own comparison tool right there in the results page.

If he was searching for your hotel, why wasn't he using your hotel's name? Most likely because its a complete unknown, or it doesn't have a strong brand presence like the Mt Nelson, and a few others I could mention. But looking at that - you're suddenly not looking at SEO anymore at all - you're looking at a hell of a lot of other factors - brand strength and perception, user satisfaction and experience ... many of which aren't online components at all.

It's a very basic example, but the principles will hold for many sites, which is why digital/online marketing - just marketing in general - has become a lot more complicated than it used to be.



I feel the need to add here that marketing on Facebook is not SEO, but SMM. There's a fundamental difference. But - you can apply SEO techniques to Facebook pages, which will help them to rank in search engines for specific searches related to your brand.

Your comment is fair though - the organic reach of Facebook pages have been shot to hell. You'll be lucky to earn 5% of the traffic from FB pages you managed in the past.



SEO is one single facet of a much larger discipline - which is marketing. People might be tempted to correct me there and say online/digital marketing, which is not wrong, but unfortunately, we're no longer in a space where we can ignore offline signals if they are present.

My personal feeling has always been that marketing is an art rather than a science - the art of capturing people's attention, engaging them, getting them to trust you. Once that level of trust is established, people will search for your brand, rather than doing generic searches for products or services. This is something which Takealot has managed spectacularly well - as has Amazon, many years before them.

It might surprise you to learn this, but Amazon is one of the biggest search engines. Simply because people know them and trust them, and when shopping, know they are likely to find what they are looking for there. So they'll search there - not in Google.

SEO is NOT dead. This claim gets made every year, and it gets debunked every year. But it is part of a much larger scheme of things, which will make it seem like it doesn't matter as much. You can't ignore it though. Where the function of SEO in the past was to push up your rankings, its now more a case of making sure your site meets the minimum requirements of being able to rank. SEO is there to put you in the race, but it puts everybody else who is conscious of it in the race as well, which means looking for new defining factors that will put you ahead of the rest of the pack.

It can be anything. Awesome products, amazing service, and epic marketing campaign that gets everybody to sit up and look. But SEO by itself is not going to get a site performing like you want it to.

A final point. Forget about Page Rank. It's a completely useless metric, and has been for many years. The toolbar page rank we have access to get updated erratically, and if Google even still uses PR as a metric, they're not using the numbers we have access to.

This has turned into quite a ramble - I suspect I may have jumped around a bit. If you need any clarification on any of the points I made, I will try to do so when I have a moment to spare.

By far the best response I have ever received on this topic.

Thank you kind sir, much appreciated
 
You can also have a look at this video I linked below - ironically I watched it right after typing that whole ramble - but it happens to speak about that whole brand perception that I mentioned, and how it can help you in search.

Obviously not easy if you have a brand-spanking new site/online presence - but he gives a very good explanation, much better than mine I think. While he speaks mostly about search, much of what he says will flow over into social media and other channels too.

https://moz.com/blog/giving-searchers-reason-prefer-your-brand-whiteboard-friday

It's about 12 minutes long, but I would recommend watching it through when you get a chance.
 
Simple:

SEO is the smallest part of a good site.

It basically boils down to if you have a lot of good content that relates to what you're selling or promoting, most of the SEO work is done.
 
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