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w1re

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I have a rather scary predicament. I intended to buy an account from a company from June onwards since their price was rather cheap. I managed to get another account from a friend and thus cancelled my request with the company by email. they had already sent me the account info - but since i had cancelled i never used it and never worried about it. Since then I got a 30GB account from webafrica which i can barely make a dent in. (10gb a month maximum). so it was with great shock that three invoices in a row suddenly arrived from the previous company for the account that i never used. (all complete with price increases).

I sent an email immediately and phoned, stating that its never been used and they be able to see that - as well as the accompanying cancellation email. Their MD then informed me that they never received my email and that "surprise surprise" the account has been utiilised all this time. Their excuse is that they were bought out by another company and hence they lost their emails. They also say that account theft can happen - although i did receive a snotty letter from them about telling me that I have used the account. I had never received any invoices prior this week and they have already sent another invoice even though I spoke to their M.D. INSISTING that I have cancelled.

My question is what recourse do I have apart from my fellow office workers testifying to me cancelling the account? Is there a way of determining WHO has been using this account. I think its obvious one of the ISP company's workers must be. Like I said - I cant even make an impression on my 30GB account - WTF would i want a 3gb account? :\ They are demanding over R800 now i think.
 
Sorry bout the misinformation previously, e-mail is regarded as a legal document by the E-bill. Link

If you complain about account misuse, the ISP should be able to determine who has been using your account, if they want to. Your agreement with them probably states that the security of your account is your responsibility, hence taking the responsibility off them for investigating account misuse.

The only strange thing is the three invoices that only arrived now. They should have rightly invoiced you from the first month you bought the service. You would then have noticed that they are still charging you for the account and could've made appropriate remedies. Try and convince them to only charge you for the the first invoice, seeing that they invoiced you incorrectly.

So, first try and negotiate a middleway. Keep records of this negotiation via FAX / Recordings (after informing them you are recording the conversation). They should be willing to slash the total account at lest by half. It's cheaper than going to court over R800. Make sure you do this promptly, otherwise you might get a dirty mark on your credit record. If you still have the email message, keep it on record.
 
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Ye thanks, I have already replied to them stating that I can understand if they felt I cancelled too late, and am willing to pay for June, but to only start enquiries THREE months later after months of non-payment? What kind of company does that? And then only by faxed copies? I am also sure that they will be able to determine WHO is using the account - I would love to know. My other alternative is maybe to prove my online time with my webafrica account - I only have one pc and would therefore not be able to login simultaneously.

The "lost" email, late enquiry and company takeover is all rather convenient.
 
w1re said:
Their excuse is that they were bought out by another company and hence they lost their emails.

That's a hint to which ISP it is. Is it the on that used to be owned by the european company?
 
I view this issue as in progress. The only animosity so far has been their email telling me I am a liar. I dont see the need to name them publicly until they insist on me having to pay for someone else using a cancelled account. I am sure this will be solved amicably. Although another worrying fact is that even after my recent email saying I cancelled, as well as chatting to their m.d. about how shocked I am its NOT cancelled, and discussing this point to death with him - they mail me the usage stats - all the way up to today. STILL not cancelled. For some reason they are keeping this account alive? I mean, I cant go higher than the owner of the company, yet they are happy to see someone still use the account and charge me for it?
 
@lantic was recently bought by Datapro.

Tiscali was bought by M-Web (but that was more than 3 months ago)
 
Hold The Phone.

I think I have something here. There is a point on the application form which I just read again... duh. In their own words (copy + paste)

"Authorisation / Agreement:

I, the undersigned hereby accept the conditions of agreement, found on the face of this form, and indebtedness to **********, unconditionally, I, the undersigned accept that accounts will only be activated after payment has been received in full. I, the undersigned confirm that I have examined, understand the subscription form, the product descriptions and tariffs for the above mentioned products and acknowledge indebtedness to **********."

How was this account ever activated? I never paid because I cancelled, hence the account should never have been active, yet they/someone still keeps it alive and have usage stats for it??
 
AdLo said:
@lantic was recently bought by Datapro.

Tiscali was bought by M-Web (but that was more than 3 months ago)

Mweb only stopped selling Tiscali products this month
 
who was it?

a certain ISP left a message on my cellphone stating I owed them R400 something rand some outstanding account.. I mailed them telling them I have paid every month and would they like the payment proof? havent heard from them again.

name and shame
 
thirded

also feel free to ignore them - from what you have outlined they have no grounds to recover anything other than perhaps the first month's payment & even that sounds thin

simple principle - if you use it pay for it
 
I have received an email of apology from the company and confirmation that they will finally cancel the account. It is, however, merely an apology and I would relax a bit more if they specifically stated that they no longer wish to take this matter further - which in turn means I wont have to take it further :) Although, with emails being legitimate documents (as seen above), their last email might be enough to put an end to all of this.

So no, no reason to name them still. If anything I hope this makes everyone at least a bit more wary of possible pitfalls in the future when securing service providers, or any service online.
 
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