ISP With No Throttling policy?

[GoofySmurf]

LOL.

Seems like you don't know the difference.

Shaping is limiting speed based on protocol, while throttling is limiting speed regardless of protocol and instead limits the whole connection.

Please prove me wrong technically then I will entertain your "theory", got anything to back it up ? Until then its just your theory ...

Let me help you help yourself, its all on the WIKI and every technical site worth its salt will confirm this.

BTW your term doesn't exist as a technical term, since when is this site full of a bunch of idiots that thinks they know whats going on ... the misinformation on here is astounding.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_shaping

Traffic shaping (also known as "packet shaping") is a computer network traffic management technique which delays some or all datagrams to bring them into compliance with a desired traffic profile.[1][2] Traffic shaping is a form of rate limiting.
Traffic shaping is used to optimize or guarantee performance, improve latency, and/or increase usable bandwidth for some kinds of packets by delaying other kinds.


Functionality

If a link becomes saturated to the point where there is a significant level of contention (either upstream or downstream) latency can rise substantially. Traffic shaping can be used to prevent this from occurring and keep latency in check. Traffic shaping provides a means to control the volume of traffic being sent into a network in a specified period (bandwidth throttling), or the maximum rate at which the traffic is sent (rate limiting), or more complex criteria such as GCRA. This control can be accomplished in many ways and for many reasons; however traffic shaping is always achieved by delaying packets. Traffic shaping is commonly applied at the network edges to control traffic entering the network, but can also be applied by the traffic source (for example, computer or network card[3]) or by an element in the network. Traffic policing is the distinct but related practice of packet dropping and packet marking.[4] The technique of selecting or categorising traffic into different types or classes is traffic classification.

By the way there is no such technical term as "Traffic throttling" and its a term thumb sucked by god knows who. Maybe the traffic department knows what "traffic throttling" means ....

 

[cryaxxx]

So im thinking of going with afrihost or openweb. I have to do this today because its the last calander day to change.

 

[cryaxxx]

Oh so they do have a gold special going? I didn't see it on the main homepage!
Get that OP, now. Before it runs out again.

OW Gold has very little shaping. they don't throttle at all.

definetly gojng to get that just waiting for afriman to clear up a few things. But that sounds extreamly tempting

 

[MickeyD]

So im thinking of going with afrihost or openweb. I have to do this today because its the last calander day to change.

Telkom Internet (the ISP)... bundle it with Telkom ADSL for other discounts.

 

[Tinuva]

Please prove me wrong technically then I will entertain your "theory", got anything to back it up ? Until then its just your theory ...

Let me help you help yourself, its all on the WIKI and every technical site worth its salt will confirm this.

BTW your term doesn't exist as a technical term, since when is this site full of a bunch of idiots that thinks they know whats going on ... the misinformation on here is astounding.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_shaping

Traffic shaping (also known as "packet shaping") is a computer network traffic management technique which delays some or all datagrams to bring them into compliance with a desired traffic profile.[1][2] Traffic shaping is a form of rate limiting.
Traffic shaping is used to optimize or guarantee performance, improve latency, and/or increase usable bandwidth for some kinds of packets by delaying other kinds.


Functionality

If a link becomes saturated to the point where there is a significant level of contention (either upstream or downstream) latency can rise substantially. Traffic shaping can be used to prevent this from occurring and keep latency in check. Traffic shaping provides a means to control the volume of traffic being sent into a network in a specified period (bandwidth throttling), or the maximum rate at which the traffic is sent (rate limiting), or more complex criteria such as GCRA. This control can be accomplished in many ways and for many reasons; however traffic shaping is always achieved by delaying packets. Traffic shaping is commonly applied at the network edges to control traffic entering the network, but can also be applied by the traffic source (for example, computer or network card[3]) or by an element in the network. Traffic policing is the distinct but related practice of packet dropping and packet marking.[4] The technique of selecting or categorising traffic into different types or classes is traffic classification.

By the way there is no such technical term as "Traffic throttling" and its a term thumb sucked by god knows who. Maybe the traffic department knows what "traffic throttling" means ....

Clearly you can read a wiki page, and not comprehend what it means.

On the link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic_shaping to be specific) that you linked:

Traffic classification[edit]
Simple traffic shaping schemes shape all traffic uniformly by rate. More sophisticated shapers first classify traffic. Traffic classification categorises traffic (for example, based on port number or protocol). Different classes can then be shaped separately to achieve a desired effect.

Thus clearly, what local ADSL ISPs call throttling, is a form of Shaping, which it actually is, and using the term throttling is just fine. The correct Cisco coined term for it would be to place a traffic policer on a link or virtual-link, or in cisco speak again, an interface or virtual-interface ect.

Thus to say an account can get throttled, is to say a very specific simplified type of shaping is applied to the account, where packet classification is ignored and all traffic gets policed. The more intelligent shaped accounts, first apply packet classification to the packets, and then push them into different queues or pipes which have different priorities with different shapers applied to them, some that will send traffic out as fast as possible, and others that will slow traffic down.

My conclusion is, you are wasting your time. More importantly, you are spreading rubbish on the internet. The only good thing you did, was to link to the Wikipedia article, whilst making yourself look stupid.

 

[Syphonx]

What do you think throttled means its shaping get a clue before trying to sound intelligent. You do the throttling via qos and traffic shaping, the term throttled is the lamen's term for non technical people to understand what you are talking about.

Ironic, telling people they are stupid yet you post this.......

 

[ponder]

Ironic, telling people they are stupid yet you post this.......

 

[AfriMan]

For us, shaping and throttling are VERY different. Shaping is limiting speed or priority by protocol, but in essence you still have your full line speed available on unshaped protocol.

For us, we don't ever touch real time services like gaming, streaming (audio & video), terminal services like SSH, and VoIP services like Skype. We also separate torrents and direct HTTP downloads so that downloads are less affected by shaping than P2P file sharing.

Our aim is to always shape the least possible number of clients to the least extent (or not at all) for as long as we possibly can. We've had to shape more than we'd like over the past week or so, but we still believe that we've delivered the best experience under the circumstances, whereas throttling may have been implemented by other ISP - we don't believe in it

 

[Gboss]

Ironic, telling people they are stupid yet you post this.......