ISP with own ADSL Authentication be warned

Well firstly again. Thanks to you all for at least speaking to us. I know my energy is being directed at you as you at least respond. Talking to telkom is .. well.. We all know what its like. Sorry if I seemed so upset Its just driving me mad.

I'll check LGM's thread, I'm just not so technical anymore as I've been out of direct contact with the IT industry for almost 2 years now. While things are basically still the same in principle, we all know how IT changes every few days... and as Paarlberg said, wouldn't want to say something that could cause more problems in the long run in a complaint to ICASA.

While I'm usually the optimist, its become very hard to believe ICASA can do anything (But DAMN I'm still holding thumbs and praying they do). I mean they bring out their findings report, and what did Telkom do.. Turned around and gave them the finger, Re-modeled EVERYTHING to be worse than it was, and said if ICASA went ahead they would pull the plug.

You know thinking about this now, it would not surprise me if Telkom have found a loop hole somewhere which is why we are getting these changes. If and when ICASA release the final results, can the not turn around and say they are invalid as they where based on the old model and needs to be re evaulated.. in effect adding another year to any changes while they keep smiling to the bank?
 
Well I mean as said I'm not in the line of work to be 100% accurate anymore, but in the last 40 minutes of searching on google (and I'm sure all the ISP's have much better contacts and sources than google)

I found TONS of software options for ISP's to bill on Raduis server models, and even a few Hardware systems from even the small companies like planet. The ones that just caught my eye, as they have demos to use and even I could set things up in minutes to cut a user off as he hits his cap.. SPOT ON are:

http://www.24onlinebilling.com/billing.htm
http://advancedispbilling.com/features.htm
http://www.rodopi.com/index.php?page=1

Now why cant this be done here in SA? Or what am I missing with these that wont make it work?
 
Well, I don't know of other people has heard of this (paarlberg, wamatt, etc) but Telkom has done the silliest thing to address this issue.

They're allowing ISP's to throttle their clients when getting near their cap to between 16Kbps and 64Kbps to ensure that the problem that Paarlberg has described is more maneagable.

Talk about approaching things from the arse end of town!
 
More managable... What could be easier that installing software like that above and as said I'm sure there are things much better and avaliable to the ISP.

Key in the users details, User can do what he wants to, hits cap. user gets shut off, User can log into screen and top up if he wants more? There are even options there for Resellers, so Telkom could use it to sell bandwidth to the ISPs.. why are we going backwards?
 
TheRodent - I bet isp's know about this, but wouldnt talk about it. It would probably end up on the "SAIX is just performing poorly atm" bench.
 
TheRoDent said:
Well, I don't know of other people has heard of this (paarlberg, wamatt, etc) but Telkom has done the silliest thing to address this issue.

They're allowing ISP's to throttle their clients when getting near their cap to between 16Kbps and 64Kbps to ensure that the problem that Paarlberg has described is more maneagable.

Talk about approaching things from the arse end of town!
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First I've heard of that, I doubt its true. Anyhow its absurd! We will *never* do that.
 
TheRoDent said:
Well, I don't know of other people has heard of this (paarlberg, wamatt, etc) but Telkom has done the silliest thing to address this issue.

They're allowing ISP's to throttle their clients when getting near their cap to between 16Kbps and 64Kbps to ensure that the problem that Paarlberg has described is more maneagable.

Talk about approaching things from the arse end of town!
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I think the reasoning behind the 16 Kbps & 64 Kbps throttle is to provide an alternative to "hard capping" - basically the client can still connect albeit slowly to recharge their account or download their email - nothing sinister about that IMO.

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Pedantic
www.saol.com
 
Hah.

a document... said:
No throttling refers to the point that the user will achieve his subscribed ADSL speed. Throttling to 64kbps or 16kbps means that the user’s normal ADSL speed will be reduced to this lower speed to limit bandwidth utilisation and to manage the risk of users over utilising accounts.
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Could any of the software above not be used? and IF not why? I really am not trying to be funny, I would just really like to find out more?
 
Pedantic said:
I think the reasoning behind the 16 Kbps & 64 Kbps throttle is to provide an alternative to "hard capping" - basically the client can still connect albeit slowly to recharge their account or download their email - nothing sinister about that IMO.

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Pedantic
www.saol.com
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Fair enough, lets say its 56k throttled and usuable local speed, why not then just tell users about it.. Some users may even be happy with that speed till month end, in the case of November, it is better than nothing and alot better than paying for more and more gigs.
 
Point is, that normal SAIX, or SAIX resellers will probably not be subject to this crap, since SAIX can take the brunt (as paarlberg pointed out), and not subject their users to this kind of crap.

We'll have to see if SAIX does this to their own accounts too. If they do, then we have no point to moan about. If they don't then I think there is some serious competition comission cases that are coming up for review ;)

Aside from that, I'd like to see SAIX change the Terms of Service for my currently uncapedd account.
 
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