ISPA challenges Telkom over LLU

I just wonder how long are they gonna keep milking this cow. Thanks to ANC government for this.
 
aaa screw this i want fibre to my house
 
And when LLU happens, isps will complain that the main price component is IPC so they cant really drop prices much
 
Since I "like" harping on about overseas and the U.K.telecoms industry blah blah blah and I'm sure to get the obligatory excuse blah blah blah why it will never work here because we are a different country/economy/market/demographics etc etc etc I would like to point out some success in a well regulated industry.

Between 2005 and April 2013 the number of unbundled lines increased from 123,000 to 9 million
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What % growth is that?

Competition also means lower bills for consumers. At the end of 2005, UK consumers were paying on average £23.60 a month (excluding VAT) for a broadband service delivered over a copper phone line. Today they are paying around £13.11 for the same service.
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What % decrease is that?

http://ask.ofcom.org.uk/help/telephone/LLU

Now that's what I would like to see happening in this country.Is it too much to ask for?
 
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Just from curiosity and it's been buggering me for a while. Does any one knows the real reason why ANC did not approve the sale of Telkom to the Koreans? What they were so scared from?
 
bavmorda said:
Just from curiosity and it's been buggering me for a while. Does any one knows the real reason why ANC did not approve the sale of Telkom to the Koreans? What they were so scared from?
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Say what??

Er...because if there's nothing in it for them then a deal not done?
 
MickeyD said:
The KT deal would have diluted the Govt shareholding.... need more be said?
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Not sure what EINA means.
But probably the company would be in a better shape, newer technologies implemented, more competitive and as a result price of the shares will increase. Honestly i suspect there was something else political perhaps, for the deal not to go through.
 
bavmorda said:
Just from curiosity and it's been buggering me for a while. Does any one knows the real reason why ANC did not approve the sale of Telkom to the Koreans? What they were so scared from?
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Verb: buggering
penetrate the anus of (someone) during sexual intercourse; sodomize.

Verb: bugging
(informal) annoy or bother (someone).

bavmorda said:
Not sure what EINA means.
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Interjection: eina
Ouch! An exclamation of pain.
 
bavmorda said:
Not sure what EINA means.
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Eina = painful... as buggery can be!

But probably the company would be in a better shape, newer technologies implemented, more competitive and as a result price of the shares will increase. Honestly i suspect there was something else political perhaps, for the deal not to go through.
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Share dilution would mean that Govt would have less say on the composition of the Telkom Board, hence the strategic direction of the company.
 
Leftfoot said:
I think thats where my initial concerns stem from. My brother-in-law gave me a tour of some telecoms operations and reticulations near Bury St Edmunds in the UK. I had noticed a major difference in network integrity from the BT owned/managed days to the subcontracted managed days. It may have been isolated but to see a birds nest of Telephone/data lines was scary.

Thankfully MickeyD mentioned that Telkom still maintain the network which imo is a positive point.
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And I wholly respect your concerns and thereby believe that we in SA(Industry and regulator) are dilly dallying on this, especially in light of why can't we come together to FIX it for the benefit of all, as highlighted by an interested provider(Yes there will be narrow interests).

Internet Solutions, a wholly owned subsidiary of Dimension Data, said that the responsible approach would be to ask for advice from people with experience and apply it in the most relevant way to the South African market.
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So,whilst I believe that LLU will not fix things in the short term but let's have it as an option and tailor make it to our environment with inputs from successful implementations.

“But, each player would inherently see the problem from its own perspective. For this reason, we would like to see everyone in one room at the same time, pooling ideas and concepts for operationally practical LLU – and driving for consensus.”

“Icasa could use this input to create regulations that would not only be relevant to the South African circumstance but could be rolled out immediately. A workshop is now the fastest way to make LLU a reality.”
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Let's do it!!!
 
Telkom's network

Telkom got their network for free from the South African taxpayer. It was a public resource. They should not speak so loudly about their ownership and rights to it, as they may betray the trust in which they hold that ownership and rights. Companies should think of service first and profits as a necessary operating constraint. This applies especially to government companies (Telkom, Sanral, SAA ...)
 
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cfilorux said:
Telkom got their network for free from the South African taxpayer. It was a public resource. They should not speak so loudly about their ownership and rights to it, as they may betray the trust in which they hold that ownership and rights. Companies should think of service first and profits as a necessary operating constraint. This applies especially to government companies (Telkom, Sanral, SAA ...)
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/bangs head on desk
 
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