Israel Considers Pre-Emptive Attack On Iran

[killadoob]

Doubt that is true firstly Iran only has a 160 years of reserves because they produce far less than countries like Saudi Arabia if they were matching the production of Saudi Arabia there reserves would be far less, it's estimated Saudi Arabia has at least twice as much oil left as Iran.

Quoted From Article "Based on data from OPEC at the beginning of 2011 the highest proved oil reserves including non-conventional oil deposits are in Venezuela (20 per cent of global reserves), Saudi Arabia (18 %,of global reserves), Iran (9 %).[2]"

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_reserves

Also the USA has almost 25% of the worlds coal a substantial amount more than any other country.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal

They also produce coal, copper, lead, molybdenum, phosphates, uranium, bauxite, gold, iron, mercury, nickel, potash, silver, tungsten, zinc, petroleum, natural gas, timber

Link: http://maps.howstuffworks.com/maps-of-united-states.htm
http://www.photius.com/wfb1999/united_states/united_states_geography.html
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_kind_of_natural_resources_dose_US_have

Also the United States influence on the worlds financial markets can't be denied.

Quoted From Article "Most of the economy is classified as services. The country remains the world's largest manufacturer, representing a fifth of the global manufacturing output. The United States is home to 139 of the world's 500 largest companies, which is almost twice that of any other country.[21] About 60% the global currency reserves has been invested in the United States dollar and only 24% in euro."

The United States also exports massive amounts of food and close to half of the worlds grain

Quoted From Article "Agriculture is a major industry in the United States and the country is a net exporter of food. With vast tracts of temperate arable land, technologically advanced agribusiness, and agricultural subsidies, the United States controls almost half of world grain exports.[108]
Products include wheat, corn, other grains, fruits, vegetables, cotton; beef, pork, poultry, dairy products; forest products; fish."

The United States is also the worlds largest manufacturer

Quoted From Article "The United States is the world's largest manufacturer, with a 2009 industrial output of US$2.33 trillion. Its manufacturing output is greater than of Germany, France, India, and Brazil combined, despite manufacturing being a small portion of the entire US economy as compared to other countries.[109]"

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States

Its ridicolous to think the USA has nothing.

I would say it's almost as ridiculous as calling iran minnows. I somehow doubt america is bigger than china but that is up for debate . Iran has so much oil, why do you think the americans are after iran? They want to put a western friendly dictator in iran they did in egypt. Israel would also love that as well.

“I cannot imagine a worse alliance [against Iran]: America is the only power in the world to have used atomic weapons; Israel has a secret illegal nuclear program which it denied for years, but it makes it the only nuclear power in the Middle East; and Britain of course the former colonial power providing the means to get those nuclear weapons all those years ago,” he told RT.

Boy the world is messed up when we are worrying about a country with a power station over two countries who have an illegal nuke program and one that has shown they will use nukes if needed.

 

[agerbon]

I would say it's almost as ridiculous as calling iran minnows. I somehow doubt america is bigger than china but that is up for debate . Iran has so much oil, why do you think the americans are after iran? They want to put a western friendly dictator in iran they did in egypt. Israel would also love that as well.

“I cannot imagine a worse alliance [against Iran]: America is the only power in the world to have used atomic weapons; Israel has a secret illegal nuclear program which it denied for years, but it makes it the only nuclear power in the Middle East; and Britain of course the former colonial power providing the means to get those nuclear weapons all those years ago,” he told RT.

Boy the world is messed up when we are worrying about a country with a power station over two countries who have an illegal nuke program and one that has shown they will use nukes if needed.

The English (they used to control the oil in Iran) and the Americans already tried that in 1953 and their dictator stayed in power for 26 years. Hence why Iran doesn't get along with the west.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of terrorist attack soon and Iran getting blamed for it. The west is quite skillful when it comes to false flags operations.

 

[killadoob]

The English (they used to control the oil in Iran) and the Americans already tried that in 1953 and their dictator stayed in power for 26 years. Hence why Iran doesn't get along with the west.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some sort of terrorist attack soon and Iran getting blamed for it. The west is quite skillful when it comes to false flags operations.

Yup they have already lied about iran trying to assassinate some saudi prince or whatever, oddly many american supporters did not exactly jump on the belief bandwagon regarding that one.

I cannot really see the rest of the world buying another 911 though. It would seem way too obvious to have an attack inside your when you want to go to war and are actively seeking the excuse . Happened once not again.

 

[marine1]

Are you Muslim by any chance ?

Ya think ?

 

[Lightscribe]

mmm False flag operation...So come on all terrorists of the world, attack Western assets. They will believe the "false flag story". Attack and attack and attack. Go for it. They will accept it. They want to be attacked by iran.

Get ready iran...you want to yap. You want to stir a war. Don't B*tch when you get it.

Remember, keep saying Israel must wiped off the face of the Earth. Don't stop now...

 

[marine1]

Dream ON !!

I for one wish it all goes down and Iran retaliate with a nuclear strike on Israel and wipe them off the face of the Earth. Call it wishful thinking - but enough of their tyranny and hatred and acts of genocide, violence and terror on the innocent.

Something else that Israel should be contemplating - the rest of the Arab world isn't just going to take it lying down anymore - like they did with Afghanistan and Iraq and .... and.... and.... - I relish the day that the skies above Israel are filled with nuclear fallout!

Dream on. Will never happen. You can wish and dream all you want. Israel will prevail against Islamic / Arab hatred. Juaism was there before and will be there long after. Wake up your Jihadi coffee is cold

 

[MattyW]

I would say it's almost as ridiculous as calling iran minnows. I somehow doubt america is bigger than china but that is up for debate . Iran has so much oil, why do you think the americans are after iran? They want to put a western friendly dictator in iran they did in egypt. Israel would also love that as well.

“I cannot imagine a worse alliance [against Iran]: America is the only power in the world to have used atomic weapons; Israel has a secret illegal nuclear program which it denied for years, but it makes it the only nuclear power in the Middle East; and Britain of course the former colonial power providing the means to get those nuclear weapons all those years ago,” he told RT.

Boy the world is messed up when we are worrying about a country with a power station over two countries who have an illegal nuke program and one that has shown they will use nukes if needed.

While I agree that Israel should not have nuclear weapons or at the least should let U.N inspectors inspect their stockpiles you can hardly call it illegal, Israel have not signed the nuclear nuclear non-proliferation treaty along with India and Pakistan {Ironically the three countries along with North Korea who are not part of the U.N security council and yet possess nuclear weapons}. Also Great Britian legally possess and have declared their nuclear weapons.

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_Non-Proliferation_Treaty#Iran

Also overall the United States have proven to be pretty reliable with their nuclear weapons, you point out that they are the only country to have used the atomic bomb but they are also the country that developed them and while a whole debate could go on whether the use of atomic weapons was justified in WW2, I can understand how at the time the people could have thought so ecspecially to put a definitive end to the war which had cost so many lives already. America was the only country to possess nuclear weapons from 1945-1949 if they wanted to they could have easily enslaved the entire planet or used nuclear weapons against anyone in the world without worrying about repercussions yet they didn't and while the Soviets were hardly the best people to get nuclear weapons at least they acted as a counter-balance to only one country having nuclear power {Post 1949}.

I also disagree about why America is after Iran, if America was as interested in oil as you claim they could have easily enslaved Iraq and begun pumping out all the oil they need, I believe America wants peace in the region and while I can see how Iran might consider America to be bullying them, the threat of a rogue state developing and allowing nuclear weapons to fall into the hands of extremists is a terrifying and legitimate concern that requires serious action.

 

[Cloudster]

.......and while a whole debate could go on whether the use of atomic weapons was justified in WW2, I can understand how at the time the people could have thought so ecspecially to put a definitive end to the war which had cost so many lives already. America was the only country to possess nuclear weapons from 1945-1949 if they wanted to they could have easily enslaved the entire planet or used nuclear weapons against anyone in the world without worrying about repercussions yet they didn't.....

There is no debate regarding the use of the atom bomb in WW2, it was a disgusting move on America's part. You can't defend an action like that, its unforgivable. The fact of the matter is that they did launch this bomb and they killed many innocents and people still suffer from the rubbish they caught on till today.

9/11 was a joke compared to this catastrophe.

I also disagree about why America is after Iran, if America was as interested in oil as you claim they could have easily enslaved Iraq and begun pumping out all the oil they need, I believe America wants peace in the region and while I can see how Iran might consider America to be bullying them, the threat of a rogue state developing and allowing nuclear weapons to fall into the hands of extremists is a terrifying and legitimate concern that requires serious action.

Anyone having nuclear weapons is a concern to me... and to date only the Americans have proven to be wreckless enough to use these horrific weapons on people. What exactly is a "rogue state"? A state that happens to not agree with America? I'm not anti-America but ffs the way they try and brainwash the world (much like their citizens) is just absurd.

 

[Alan]

Also overall the United States have proven to be pretty reliable with their nuclear weapons, you point out that they are the only country to have used the atomic bomb but they are also the country that developed them and while a whole debate could go on whether the use of atomic weapons was justified in WW2, I can understand how at the time the people could have thought so ecspecially to put a definitive end to the war which had cost so many lives already. America was the only country to possess nuclear weapons from 1945-1949 if they wanted to they could have easily enslaved the entire planet or used nuclear weapons against anyone in the world without worrying about repercussions yet they didn't and while the Soviets were hardly the best people to get nuclear weapons at least they acted as a counter-balance to only one country having nuclear power {Post 1949}.

Yeah they don't let facts get in the way. In their heads the Japanese regime was rational and peaceful but was forced into the war by an unjustified U.S oil embargo and were desperate to surrender by 1945 but those bastard yanks just wanted to test out their new toy. Saying it was justified is as crazy as claiming they landed on the moon :erm:

 

[Cloudster]

Yeah they don't let facts get in the way. In their heads the Japanese regime was rational and peaceful but was forced into the war by an unjustified U.S oil embargo and were desperate to surrender by 1945 but those bastard yanks just wanted to test out their new toy. Saying it was justified is as crazy as claiming they landed on the moon :erm:

Now your just being silly.

 

[zippy]

I agree nail the middle east, get rid of the israeli, iran, palestine issue once and for all. You have a good point and for once i actually agree.

Lol. Damn I'll have to change my mind:

Peace, love. Anyone want to join my "Hug a middle east person" campaign ?

 

[Lightscribe]

Now your just being silly.

That was just plain well said, Alan. Cloudster, come on, hug imadimmitwat, or whatever his name is...

 

[Palimino]

Israel has more than enough fire power and has done more than enough planning to absolutely destroy anyone who uses nuclear weapons against them, also it's highly unlikely ANYONE will come out in favor of a country which iitiates a nuclear strike on another country, if Iran did it, it would be them vs the world.

Well said.

 

[Palimino]

Yup they have already lied about iran trying to assassinate some saudi prince or whatever, oddly many american supporters did not exactly jump on the belief bandwagon regarding that one.

This must be an exception. This doesn’t sound like ‘quite skilful when it comes to false flags operations’. It sounds like a bumbling attempt by the CIA to blame Iran. I will take agerbon’s contention that ‘The west is quite skilful when it comes to false flags operations’ under advisement. He is probably right but this was NEVER a skilful false flag operation. Anyway, I would rate Mossad or MI6 as better than the CIA at skilful false flag operations.

 

[Lightscribe]

This must be an exception. This doesn’t sound like ‘quite skilful when it comes to false flags operations’. It sounds like a bumbling attempt by the CIA to blame Iran. I will take agerbon’s contention that ‘The west is quite skilful when it comes to false flags operations’ under advisement. He is probably right but this was NEVER a skilful false flag operation. Anyway, I would rate Mossad or MI6 as better than the CIA at skilful false flag operations.

Interesting... I just Googled that... "% people in US believe that iran tried to assinate saudi prince"

Seems the 1st hit says someone's going to pay... mmmm wonder who

 

[Palimino]

...the USA would not be their body guards and they [Israel] would have collapsed by now.

I doubt that. Things would be an order of magnitude harder and the society would have militarised further but they wouldn’t collapse.

 

[Palimino]

You guys are like small kids, talking about "nuclear barrages". Nobody is going to use a nuclear weapon anytime soon. Its nothing but a deterrant. Can't see anyone using a nuclear weapon in the ME or the world. Not even the apartheid state.

A nuclear weapon is a last resort. You guys make me laugh with this nuke this and nuke that bull****.

True.

 

[TheMightyQuin]

Bollocks. Iran has democratic elections for all it's citizens, Jews included (they are also represented in government as a minority). The US does not always favour democracy when it does not dance to their fiddle hence the US backed overthrow of many democratically elected leaders in the world.

This is just a general NON-trolling question 'cos I am genuinely interested: are women allowed to vote in Iran?

 

[I want a GTI]

There is no debate regarding the use of the atom bomb in WW2, it was a disgusting move on America's part. You can't defend an action like that, its unforgivable. The fact of the matter is that they did launch this bomb and they killed many innocents and people still suffer from the rubbish they caught on till today.

9/11 was a joke compared to this catastrophe.



Anyone having nuclear weapons is a concern to me... and to date only the Americans have proven to be wreckless enough to use these horrific weapons on people. What exactly is a "rogue state"? A state that happens to not agree with America? I'm not anti-America but ffs the way they try and brainwash the world (much like their citizens) is just absurd.

Never underestimate the power of media, to sway public sentiment, as is apparent on this forum. There can be no justification for the two nuclear weapons used on an unarmed civilian population. If anything, those individuals directly involved in the decision to employ such a weapon on an unarmed, civilian population should have been tried in the Hague.

Imagine, if Hitler used such a weapon on a civilian population, the history books would have a much different story today.

Really, I'm absolutely opposed to any forms of terrorism, but if one has to tally up all the civilian blood on the hands of the warmongers in DC, carried out under the flimsy pretext of WMD's and such, it wouldn't even be comparable to the big bad, Muslim, Mexican drug cartel conspiring, assasination plotting, Muslim terrorists.

The power to influence or distort public sentiment is indeed a powerful thing.

 

[Shibal]

I agree nail the middle east, get rid of the israeli, iran, palestine issue once and for all. You have a good point and for once i actually agree.

I foresee a major fallout with the jihadist troop over this post.