'Israel will disappear'

[Alan]

Bush = Ahamadinejad

Is Hiliary a buddy of Oprah? Then she would win. As usual the democrats don't have any serious contenders (bit like the da I suppose.)

I guess that's why they get on so well and why Ahemi is such a vocal supporter of Dubya.

I don't know. My guess is that they would get on very well together.

Stop tempting fate.

No supprise. Flip flopping all over the place trying to suck up to all the various groups.

You really should go see a doctor about being all the time.

 

[Xarog]

Isreal ain't gonna disintegrate by themselves. No matter how much the bias mass media might try to portray it.

Depends which way you take it. If America didn't support Israel financially then they would definately disintegrate by themselves. They simply cannot generate the funds by themselves to care for their people AND support their military by themselves. It would definately be one or the other.

You got a point there. It's not the military strength that counts in the long run put the political will power. As long as there are those that use complete apathy or fear towards war and offer the "easy way out" democracies will have a hard time sustaining a war or even starting one. Don't the tyrants know it too. Strange bedfellows lefties and tyrants.

:rolleyes You know you really need to get some perspective. Infact I think I'm going to start a thread where you can have your little anti-left soapbox. Maybe then you'll get it out of your system and you can debate ideas rather than simply mudslinging.

It's up to the Iranians whether Bush will stick his boot up their @ss. If they continue to allow their leaders to go down the path they are heading then they'll all pay a heavy price.

You seem to be conveniently forgetting that it was the moderates who were expected to win the Iranian elections... Until Bush came out with his Axis of Evil speech. Then of course, Iran, NK, and Syria all became paranoid, and rightly so.

Saying that I think there is still a chance to avoid the "nuclear storm".

No. The world is running out of natural resources, or at least we're growing too fast to replace them properly or use them wisely. There's no avoiding either a huge drop in the human population OR a war over the resources (which will likely cause a huge drop in the population).

 

[Alan]

Depends which way you take it. If America didn't support Israel financially then they would definately disintegrate by themselves. They simply cannot generate the funds by themselves to care for their people AND support their military by themselves. It would definately be one or the other.


:rolleyes You know you really need to get some perspective. Infact I think I'm going to start a thread where you can have your little anti-left soapbox. Maybe then you'll get it out of your system and you can debate ideas rather than simply mudslinging.


You seem to be conveniently forgetting that it was the moderates who were expected to win the Iranian elections... Until Bush came out with his Axis of Evil speech. Then of course, Iran, NK, and Syria all became paranoid, and rightly so.


No. The world is running out of natural resources, or at least we're growing too fast to replace them properly or use them wisely. There's no avoiding either a huge drop in the human population OR a war over the resources (which will likely cause a huge drop in the population).

Fine then. America aint gonna stop funding Israel.

Truth hurts.

Oh yes, it's all Bush's fault. Everything was just peachy before he arrived. Moderate you really have a strange idea of a moderate. They should be paranoid. They are tyrannical regimes that shouldn't have the security offered by passivist leftie governments to do what they please.

Maybe. But a major war is far more likely because of the west's appeasement policies.

 

[Xarog]

Oh yes, it's all Bush's fault. Everything was just peachy before he arrived. Moderate you really have a strange idea of a moderate. They should be paranoid. They are tyrannical regimes that shouldn't have the security offered by passivist leftie governments to do what they please.

Ahamadinejad and his bunch are not moderates. The moderates I'm talking about were in favour of relaxing the religious laws that govern the country rather than increasing them.

But hey, don't let the truth get in the way of your tirade...

Maybe. But a major war is far more likely because of the west's appeasement policies.

These so called 'appeasement policies' - what do you think would happen if they didn't exist. Could it be that there would be a war?

 

[Alan]

Ahamadinejad and his bunch are not moderates. The moderates I'm talking about were in favour of relaxing the religious laws that govern the country rather than increasing them.

But hey, don't let the truth get in the way of your tirade...


These so called 'appeasement policies' - what do you think would happen if they didn't exist. Could it be that there would be a war?

I'm not talking about Ahemi. The Ayatollah's rule Iran regardless of who gets "democratically elected".

But hey that reallity pill is hard to swallow.

Do yourself a favour and open up a history book. With or without 'appeasement policies' there is going to be war if one side wants it. You can either go through the trouble now or you can delude yourself and face the music later on when the price will be far higher.

 

[Xarog]

I'm not talking about Ahemi. The Ayatollah's rule Iran regardless of who gets "democratically elected".

But hey that reallity pill is hard to swallow.

Since you seem so convinced of your point, perhaps you'd like to explain exactly to what degree the ayatollah's control the country, and what the duties and powers of the presidency exactly is...

Do yourself a favour and open up a history book. With or without 'appeasement policies' there is going to be war if one side wants it. You can either go through the trouble now or you can delude yourself and face the music later on when the price will be far higher.

So you're suggesting that we should be the agressor before anyone else gets the chance?

 

[Sharkey]

Depends which way you take it. If America didn't support Israel financially then they would definitely disintegrate by themselves. They simply cannot generate the funds by themselves to care for their people AND support their military by themselves. It would definitely be one or the other.

I could not agree more. Israel is a terrorist state. I do not understand why SA supports them. I mean Israel supported the apartheid government. MBeki should cut off all ties with these terrorists. If Israel stops receiving financial support, they would disintegrate. Israel's forces are overrated. They struggled to take out Lebanon, who did not even have a proper army LOL. Do not underestimate Iran, I am pretty sure that they have purchased weapons from the old Soviet Union. But alas, Bush will probably make up another excuse to try to "justify" invading another "terrorist" country. The only weapon of mass destruction was found in Clinton's pants