It's Mr Video versus Universal Studios

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This is going to be interesting to follow...

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=vn20080310085341553C722553

It's Mr Video versus Universal Studios

By Dianne Hawker

Movie production company Universal City Studios and its South African subsidiary have launched court proceedings in an attempt to stop DVD store franchise Mr Video from importing movies directly from the United States.

Universal and the local distributor, United International Pictures SA, have accused Mr Video of copyright infringement, saying the DVD rental giants are undercutting their cinema circuit profits.

The battle was sparked after Universal Studios discovered Mr Video was offering copies of popular romantic comedy Knocked Up in early November, before the movie had left the theatre circuit.

In a supporting affidavit, United International Pictures managing director Peter Dignan said Mr Video was damaging the company's business.

In response, Mr Video managing director Peter Scott said the practice of buying DVDs overseas is "widespread" and that the issue applies to the entire movie rental industry.

Franchise

Mr Video has 230 franchise outlets. Dignan said Universal and its subsidiary companies were the exclusive licensees and distributors of the movie.

He said company executives in London had ordered an inquiry after discovering Mr Video was buying large quantities of the Knocked Up DVD in the US.

"It is the practice of film companies not to release films as DVDs for hire … for home viewing simultaneously with a theatrical release," he said.

"Because films are generally released far later in South Africa than in the US, more often than not … films are released on DVD in the US before they have been released in theatres in South Africa."

Universal also contends that Mr Video stores would often remove the "zoning" chip that prevented DVD machines from playing DVDs bought in other parts of the world.

Scott said the Mr Video franchise was doing nothing wrong.

"This matter, although not expressed as such in the founding papers, raises pertinently the issue of the legitimacy of parallel importation.

"The videos that are the subject of this application are not counterfeit or pirated copies of Knocked Up; they are copies which were made in the US by or with the permission of the copyright owner." Universal and its subsidiaries were trying to create a monopoly, Scott said. Mr Video agreed to stop importing DVDs until the conclusion of the court case.

Judge Daniel Dlodlo ordered that it be heard on April 30.
 
Universal also contends that Mr Video stores would often remove the "zoning" chip that prevented DVD machines from playing DVDs bought in other parts of the world.

Er... what chip are they removing? The one embedded in the DVD? No one actually buys DVD players from Mr Video, so what in the hell are they on about. Oh, and kudos to Mr Video for bypassing this stupid region idea.
 
Would it not be anticompetitive behaviour if Mr Video were told to stop their parallel imports (against our competition Act)?
 
Interesting. The way I read the Copyright Act Mr Video has no leg to stand on. If the copyrights are correctly assigned to the local subsidiary then they have exclusive rights in "letting, or offering or exposing for hire by way of trade, directly or indirectly, a copy of the film." Mr Video could also be had on trademark issues too. It will be interesting to see what Judge Daniel Dlodlo finds.
 
I see more of a problem with local agents and resellers. Anyone tried to buy expensive software will know the woes of trying to buy the package online only to be told they need to go through a reseller/agent who slaps on a markup.
 
Interesting. The way I read the Copyright Act Mr Video has no leg to stand on. If the copyrights are correctly assigned to the local subsidiary then they have exclusive rights in "letting, or offering or exposing for hire by way of trade, directly or indirectly, a copy of the film." Mr Video could also be had on trademark issues too. It will be interesting to see what Judge Daniel Dlodlo finds.
I think you're right. If Mr Video was selling the DVDs, they may be able to get away with a claim of anti-competitive action by Universal. But rental rights are different and I think they'll lose.
 
Interesting. What do Mr Video charge nowadays for a DVD for a day? R20? More?

Too much either way.
 
The idiocy of the people running this industry will never cease to amaze me. Complete and utter morons. Its almost as if, for any management position at a movie or music company, they have a "Are you a douchebag?" test which you must pass to get the job.
 
Would it not be anticompetitive behaviour if Mr Video were told to stop their parallel imports (against our competition Act)?
Of course. The movie studios are all about stopping competition. Region coding should be illegal in any country that claims to be capitalist.
 
Interesting. The way I read the Copyright Act Mr Video has no leg to stand on. If the copyrights are correctly assigned to the local subsidiary then they have exclusive rights in "letting, or offering or exposing for hire by way of trade, directly or indirectly, a copy of the film." Mr Video could also be had on trademark issues too.
If they have done that, although it is an abuse of copyright to prevent competition, just as Sony and others have abused trademark law for the same purpose. It is ridiculous that these companies are allowed to abuse these laws as part of their offensive against consumers.
 
But rental rights are different and I think they'll lose.
At most the local hoodlums can claim they didn't get their protection money. If it can be shown that Universal get the same amount of money either way, then they should have no leg to stand on.

The rental outlets should stand together to fight.
 
Universal also contends that Mr Video stores would often remove the "zoning" chip that prevented DVD machines from playing DVDs bought in other parts of the world.
Unsurprisingly their statements show total ignorance, but even if this were true so what?
 
I think part of the problem is actually the follow..:
"Because films are generally released far later in South Africa than in the US, more often than not … films are released on DVD in the US before they have been released in theatres in South Africa."
 
I see more of a problem with local agents and resellers. Anyone tried to buy expensive software will know the woes of trying to buy the package online only to be told they need to go through a reseller/agent who slaps on a markup.

Come now, we all need to make a living. :D
 
whats the big deal, video shops will all be dead within 5 years. mark my words.

also, film studios are stupid for not releasing a movie internationally at one time. doing so will halt piracy and force people to go watch the movie at the cinema instead of getting a copy from a friend who downloaded it etc.

the reason why this market is so huge is because people want to see the movie asap, they dont want to wait 2 months for it to be released in SA.

Release movies internationally for 4 weeks, then bring out the dvd's internationally, at reasonable prices. whats so hard about that!?!?
 
i also import my movies, especially the eastern ones. Looking back to my previous Sterkinekor buy of Jet Li's fearless it was in "comedy english" only and no original language with subtitles which ruined the flick, needless to say i had it imported and not just the normal but collectors at 20%-30% cheaper compared to local prices. Amazon usually gives you 35 or 45% off when pre-ordering new releases...

as Kev says, its stupid not to do "same day release" for movies.

-what exactly are they going if you have a legal download-2-harddrive release before its here locally, are they going to charge you too ?
 
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