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The_MAC said:
Raising your child into a religion that you do not practice makes zero sense - who will they reference?
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Finally someone who sees where I was coming from with regards to the logic comments.

It seems like OP more wants to use the kids as an excuse to practice "religion" and correct himself in the process.

Personally I don't believe religion has anything to do with the moral compass or teaching your kids to behave. It can all be done without any religion/tradition involved.

Basically just don't be a ****, and then your kids won't be either.
 
SauRoNZA said:
Personally I don't believe religion has anything to do with the moral compass or teaching your kids to behave. It can all be done without any religion/tradition involved.

Basically just don't be a ****, and then your kids won't be either.
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I disagree there..
 
The_MAC said:
I disagree there..
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How so?

Christians murder people all the time. As do Muslims and Hindus and Atheists.

Religion has no bearing on morals and ethics in the bigger picture. It's a placebo effect of sorts.

Atheists aren't automatically bad/evil people for their lack of religion.

And plenty of Christians are bad/evil too which doesn't support the concept either.
 
SauRoNZA said:
How so?

Christians murder people all the time. As do Muslims and Hindus and Atheists.

Religion has no bearing on morals and ethics in the bigger picture. It's a placebo effect of sorts.

Atheists aren't automatically bad/evil people for their lack of religion.

And plenty of Christians are bad/evil too which doesn't support the concept either.
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What you say is unfortunately true and very sad, but not the way things should/can be.

Aligning yourself with a Religion and being Religious are two different things - the proof is in the pudding.
 
The_MAC said:
What you say is unfortunately true and very sad, but not the way things should/can be.

Aligning yourself with a Religion and being Religious are two different things - the proof is in the pudding.
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Sure.

Still doesn’t mean people without religion lack a moral compass.

In fact it really just proves religious people are bad at religion.
 
Honestly, I request you not to indoctrinate him with any nonsense. It took me 40 years to get rid of beliefs.

crocopede said:
Me and the misses agreed to raise our son Buddhist. However her parents want to teach him Hinduism, to which i object saying its going to confuse him if his parents teach him one.
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Tell then them you gave your wife the say in his Belief. And since they object you now have full right. and you wish to raise him a Satanist. They will change their minds quickly!
 
crocopede said:
And we cant keep him away from them, but for now i will never leave him unattended with them.
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You're worried on the negative impact Hinduism will have on a what, 6 month old, infant?

And tone down the language. ;)
 
The_MAC said:
Don't think anyone said that.
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You said you don’t agree to the very statement where I said the opposite.

If you don’t agree then it means you indicate a belief in the alternative which means you said exactly that.
 
crocopede said:
Dunno. Ive seen kids who were raised by parents who allowed them to choose their own beliefs. They are still to this day very confused people.

A child needs a compass. Discipline. Thats the main jyst of things. Discipline. Meditation will come naturally if they see me meditate.

Then as they grow they can learn, they wont be forced... but guided. When they reach 6 years of age then the teachings will commence. As in meditation schedule enforced, taught introspection etc. debated to be understood and not forced.

Morals are taught by parents more than religion. But in todays hectic pace few parents dedicate the time to teach their children any moral compass.

Grew up going to sunday school and i will admit... i loved it. Bible paper makes the best joints.
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Meditation for a for six year old.

HA HA HA HA HA.

I hope you strike it lucky and don’t have a kid the bounces off the walls then...otherwise good luck with that concept.

You don’t need religion to have discipline. In fact you don’t even really need discipline if you simply have a routine.

Routine is the path to enlightenment with kids.

Then when it gets to teenagers it’s a free for all and a lucky packet.
 
crocopede said:
Hi

I am spiritual but not religious. My parents are christian but the lekka kind that does not care what you choose to believe in. The wife's parents and herself are Hindu.

Me and the misses agreed to raise our son Buddhist. However her parents want to teach him Hinduism, to which i object saying its going to confuse him if his parents teach him one thing and the grandparents another. My parents have respect for our decision and but that c3nt mother in law has no respect for anything.

And we cant keep him away from them, but for now i will never leave him unattended with them.
I dont fully understand why her mother has to be such a c3ntbag all the time and just accept that i do not believe her gods and move the fck along.

If anyone has some pearls of wisdom to share before i punch that thing in her stupid face. That would be nice.
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Maybe start with yourself first?

You've seem to have skipped over the Noble Eightfold Path / Four Noble Truths: http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/buddha2.htm
 
crocopede said:
Ye luckily they only see them never. This wil be the 2nd time and a good time to set them straight after our last huge fight.
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Well this isn't going to end well if you go there with this attitude and thinking.Might as well call off the trip now.

You clearly think your wife needs her families support and don't want them out of your lives completely so perhaps more tolerance from your side what it's going to take to make things a bit bearable.
 
Why don't you go to your son with your beautiful peaceful Buddhist zen and tell him his granny is ****, and see how that pans out.

Let them teach him whatever the fk they please. When the boy is old enough he'll seek out his own path.
 
@OP have you considered that cancelling your visit might be the best course of action at this time?
 
crocopede said:
Dunno. Ive seen kids who were raised by parents who allowed them to choose their own beliefs. They are still to this day very confused people.

A child needs a compass. Discipline. Thats the main jyst of things. Discipline. Meditation will come naturally if they see me meditate.

Then as they grow they can learn, they wont be forced... but guided. When they reach 6 years of age then the teachings will commence. As in meditation schedule enforced, taught introspection etc. debated to be understood and not forced.

Morals are taught by parents more than religion. But in todays hectic pace few parents dedicate the time to teach their children any moral compass.

Grew up going to sunday school and i will admit... i loved it. Bible paper makes the best joints.
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Sorry mate, but you sound like you are all over the place. How can you not be forced to learn and then talk about an enforced schedule?

Just let the kid be a kid for goodness sake. Lead by example and be kind and good to others. It’s really that simple.
 
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