Apparently, according to the new corruption law, it is.
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Jackie Selebi going DOWN!
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LazyLion
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assuming that you are somebody important?
cos if somebody offers to take me shopping at Sandton City for new suits... I am so there baby!
R13...
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This verdict will be easily overturned on appeal...
The only thing the state managed to prove was that Selebi is a shady character of questionable credibility (like you know MJ is weird). They didn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
The only thing the state managed to prove was that Selebi is a shady character of questionable credibility (like you know MJ is weird). They didn't prove beyond a reasonable doubt.
blunomore
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They did, in the eyes of the judge. Otherwise there would not have been a 'guilty' verdict.
Balstrome
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The difference, my friends, is that YOU AND I are footing the bill for this. R14 million and counting ...
Justice at any price is worth more than no justice.
blunomore
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Justice gets bought and sold on a daily basis by the wealthy.
Balstrome
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all I can suggest then is down and not across
Not going to happen. According to SA standard I think a promotion is in order...
No - although if it was Cele in the dock or Mbeki as president then yes, quite probably. But Selebi isn't Zuma's man so he won't be getting any help.
Selebi is out of friends and out of luck.
blunomore
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That depends what information he has access to.
As former Commissioner of Police, he may have a lot of info on friends and foes alike ...............................................
marine1
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Can you say appeal?
blunomore
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Can you say tax money?
Maybe a slap on the wrist and re-instate the guy as Head of Interpol?
JerryMungo
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Actually SA is the smallfry IMO...
So how does someone without policing experience get to become the president of Interpol?
WOT A LAFF
JerryMungo
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assuming that you are somebody important?
cos if somebody offers to take me shopping at Sandton City for new suits... I am so there baby!
DUDE, you are so going down....
FOR EVEN THINKING IT!
LazyLion
King of de Jungle
I can see the headlines now...
"COMPLETELY UNKNOWN IRRELEVANT PERSON GUILTY OF CORRUPTION"
Actually this trial was a farce... the judge basically said "we don't actually know what he did wrong... but he took all that money so he must have been really, really naughty!"
Try that in any other country in the world...
What constitutes corruption under the 2004 law was discussed on the radio, I can't remember the details but I think what it boiled down to is that, for government officials, the mere fact of accepting money or a gift constitutes corruption. It doesn't matter whether the giver asks for something or not, nor does it matter what the intention of the recipient is, i.e. to use his influence to sway things or not. Furthermore, the channels through which this money is received also does not matter, e.g. 3rd parties, etc.
Accordingly, the judge does not have to know the intentions of the people involved. He only has to establish whether money or gifts were received. Evidence that this happened was corroborated by Agliotti's ex girlfriend. Therefore the verdict, guilty of corruption.
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Pitbull
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So he will also get 15 years of which he will spend 2 in a hospital and then get out on medical parol?
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No, he is not a Zuma man.