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wishblade

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Well, considering that an MCSE is related to Microsoft and Windows, I don't think it would help under Linux. Not sure if that's the funny part...

Oh well, I'd get passed over - completing my degree end of the year only, and then I still have to motivate why my experience is more technical related and that I don't have any dev experience...

But thinking back, I recently saw an ad for a java dev too, which asked for a solution and the code for the solution to a problem as well... the whole code was easily 2 lines inside a while loop - and is something that you get taught in the first few pages of any self-help "how to program" guide... I would have thought a comany seriously looking for staff would have some or other task that shows the true thinking capacity and skill set of a potential employee...
 

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Make me interested in applying if I were looking.. means the person you are interviewing is interested.. and has some problem solving skills...
 

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Well, considering that an MCSE is related to Microsoft and Windows, I don't think it would help under Linux. Not sure if that's the funny part...

Oh well, I'd get passed over - completing my degree end of the year only, and then I still have to motivate why my experience is more technical related and that I don't have any dev experience...

But thinking back, I recently saw an ad for a java dev too, which asked for a solution and the code for the solution to a problem as well... the whole code was easily 2 lines inside a while loop - and is something that you get taught in the first few pages of any self-help "how to program" guide... I would have thought a comany seriously looking for staff would have some or other task that shows the true thinking capacity and skill set of a potential employee...

Our test's for hiring employes where simple easy to sovle c++ questions... with plenty time.. it was to see if you went back to optimise.. and you style of coding and if you where effient..

Things like knowing why ++c is more optimal that c++ in a loop counter.
 

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Now I just think it's funny. But it does however seem like quite a cool job. Would this lame trick make you any more interested in applying?
I am not surprised that they do it. Cara started doing the same thing - she hides the application email address using binary code: this filters out all the applicants which are definitely not suitable. You may be surprised by the applicants that you get for a technical position.
 

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MSCe as much as its a windows accred.. it means you understand networking very important for a programmer, even in linux.. again it boils down to know the concept not the implementation.. ie dns is the same in linux and MS
 
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Our test's for hiring employes where simple easy to sovle c++ questions... with plenty time.. it was to see if you went back to optimise.. and you style of coding and if you where effient..

Things like knowing why ++c is more optimal that c++ in a loop counter.

Which is understandable, and agreed I suppose... didn't think it would have been so simple though...

greggpb said:
MSCe as much as its a windows accred.. it means you understand DNS and networking very important for a programmer, even in linux.. again it boils down to know the concept not the implementation.. ie dns is the same in linux and MS

Aso true, but then again, wouldn't that be obvious to anyone with the required experience, and hence maybe they ad is trying to filter out the chancers that think they can do the work because they have some certificate?
 

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Which is understandable, and agreed I suppose... didn't think it would have been so simple though...



Aso true, but then again, wouldn't that be obvious to anyone with the required experience, and hence maybe they ad is trying to filter out the chancers that think they can do the work because they have some certificate?

With these kind ad's you will get 40 replies from guy's who want 20grand and have no clue whats going on but have the cert..

hiring IT staff it is always best to headhunt or go on refernce from a reputable souce...
 

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My ++I example is just one of the thing we used to use back in the day.. I am sure most compilers now days optimse the code..

But back then with the c++ compliers

i++ would have to allocate an extra block of memory when compare to ++i wich just increments the current block. therefore making it twice as ineffient.. a big deal when you looping a mil time or somthing... I'm not sure it applies nowdays.

But then again this is all in c++ pre .net..

same as knowing in c++ statics are created on the stack before the program actuall execute and in .net they are created on the heap on first call.. at the end of the day you want you programmer know what the complier/computer is gonna do in the background..
 

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at one point when have client using out business object model to build on top of so I had to optimised the []operator to cache the last n(4 or 5) object accessed via operator[] because of the way they coded all their stuff. it made it so much faster.. but then again i couldn't go change all their code.

++ to cool tech chat
 

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Probably used to get rid of people who have no problem solving skills. As a Java programmer myself, it doesn't interest me any more.

Maybe trying to get a bit of google's hiring process into their company. You ever seen their Job application test? Quite interesting.
 
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