Jeep Wrangler 3.8l

koeks

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Anyone have the above... how is your fuel cons, how does it feel to drive?

I want one
 

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Jeep Wranglers are tons of fun to drive, but just how practical are they to own? Here are the biggest things you should consider before you buy a new or used Jeep Wrangler.
Is A Wrangler A Smart Purchase?
A Jeep Wrangler should never be bought on an impulse. There are too many unique factors (good and bad) that go along with owning a Wrangler. You've probably thought of some of them, but odds are you haven't considered all of the benefits and drawbacks of owning a Jeep.

You must test drive a Jeep Wrangler before you buy one. If possible, test drive it more than once. Jeep 101 (hosted by DaimlerChrysler) provides you with the perfect opportunity to test drive a Wrangler. They have both on- and off-road courses, so you can see just how it rides under a variety of conditions.

The Jeep Wrangler is definitely not for everyone. It largely depends on your personality (and your sense of adventure) as to whether or not you should be the owner of one.

For example, a sports car enthusiast will not like the Wrangler. Those who prefer the luxury of a smooth ride or leather seats will be highly disappointed. Families with children will prefer the safety and security that other SUVs provide.

In sum, those who view driving simply as a means of getting from one place to the next should look elsewhere, because the Wrangler is for those who seek adventure, those who have an interest in taking their vehicle places they've never gone before, and those who enjoy driving for no reason other than to be out in the great outdoors.

Some think of a Wrangler basically as a crude form of SUV. But the Wrangler is more about attitude and less about practicality than most other SUVs on the market. In fact, Jeep put "utility" in the sport-utility vehicle and called it a Wrangler. With removable doors, a fold-down windshield, removable top, replacement half-doors, holes in the floorboards for hosing out the interior when it's dirty - now that's utility!

PROS:
On the plus side, here are 20 reasons you should own a Jeep Wrangler.

What you need to know is that a Jeep Wrangler is a lifestyle changer:

* You will want to drive places you've never been before (off-road, for example!)
* You will long for days when you can take the top and doors off and feel the wind through your hair .
* You will crave the attention you receive from other drivers - those in Jeeps, and those just envying yours.
* You will keep your eye out for yet another add-on that will make your Jeep uniquely yours.
* You will have a new fraternity of friends - those you'll meet around town who own a Wrangler, and those you'll meet at Jeep events across the U.S., Jeep message boards, chat rooms, and listservs.
* You will be inclined to become a do-it-yourself mechanic, as repairs are quite simple.
* You will enjoy driving during all weather conditions and in all four seasons.

In sum, a Jeep Wrangler gives you the ability to express yourself, and allows you the freedom to drive anywhere you want to drive. It's the ultimate "go anywhere, do anything" vehicle! Buying a Jeep also admits you into an extremely active and public fraternity. Whether you're young in age or young at heart, it's the youthful sense of adventure that make a Wrangler a great vehicle to own. And to top it all off, Wranglers hold their value quite well, so you'll get excellent resell value when you're ready to sell.

CONS:
On the down side, here are 20 reasons you shouldn't own a Jeep Wrangler.

Before purchasing a Wrangler, here are some of the things you should consider:

* If you don't like the outdoors, you won't like a Wrangler.
* If you're overly concerned about luxury, safety or security, you won't like a Wrangler.
* If you really need a passenger vehicle, a Wrangler probably won't work for you.
* If you need space for hauling things (luggage, groceries, etc.), the Wrangler won't do it for you, nor does it have a trunk compartment that locks.
* If you have a long commute, you won't enjoy the noisy ride, and the Wrangler guzzles gas.
* If you have a large family, you won't be able to comfortably seat everyone in a Wrangler.
* If you (or your passengers) are concerned about how you'll "look" when you get to your destination, then you might not appreciate the "sweat factor" or "windblown hair" you get from riding in a Jeep convertible.

In sum, a Wrangler is definitely a "no frills" vehicle. It comes with very few "extras", and some of the most basic things (carpet, steel doors, rear seat) are considered options. If comfort, security, and safety are tops on your list of vehicle requirements, you should probably think twice about buying a Jeep Wrangler.
 

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Trouble Spots
Consumer Guide's® Auto Editors have scoured repair bulletins and questioned mechanics to search for commonly occurring problems for a particular vehicle. In some cases we also give possible manufacturer-suggested solutions. In many instances these trouble spots are Technical Service Bulletins posted by the manufacturer, however, we have our own expert looking at additional vehicle problems.
Air conditioner: Water leaks onto passenger side floor from A/C requiring an extension on the condensate drain tube. (1997-03)
Doors: The doors may not unlock with the key, requiring replacement of the door latches. (1997)
Fuel gauge: The gas-gauge needle may not point to full, may show 1/8 to 1/4 full when the tank is empty. (1997)
Fuel odors: The gas tank may fill slowly or the pump nozzle will keep shutting off due to a problem with the fuel-tank venting system. (1997)
Manual transmission: High shift effort on 5-speed manual transmission may be remedied with a replacement shift shaft lever and shift detent plunger. (1999-2000)
Steering problems: Fluid leaks from the power-steering reservoir. (1997)
Water leak: Water may leak onto the passenger-side front floor due to leaks in the heater and air-conditioner housing or from a problem with the evaporator drain tube. (1997)
Consumer Guide® Estimated Repair Costs
This table lists costs of likely repairs for comparison with other vehicles. The dollar amount includes the cost of the part(s) and labor (based on $50 per hour) for the typical repair without extras or add-ons. Like the pricing information, replacement costs can vary widely depending on region. Expect charges at a new-car dealership to be slightly higher.
Item Name Repair Cost
A/C Compressor $375
Alternator $315
Automatic Transmission or Transaxle $930
Brakes $270
Clutch, Pressure Plate, Bearing $2,165
Exhaust System $220
Radiator $300
Shocks and/or Struts $190
Timing Chain or Belt $200
Universal Joints $220
NHTSA Recall History
1997 Wrangler: Airbag could deploy inadvertently when ignition is shut off.
1997 Wrangler: Airbag-control module on some vehicles contains an error that can delay deployment in certain crash situations.
1997 Wrangler w/manual steering: Driver's airbag-wiring harness can break when steering wheel is turned to "full lock" position; in crash, airbag would not deploy.
1997-03 Wrangler w/Bestop hardtop and roof rack: With some rear shell roof racks made for use with aftermarket Bestop hardtop, cockpit cover may not stay latched and could separate from the roof rack.
1998 Wrangler: Front-seatbelt shoulder anchors were not properly heat treated and hardened; in a crash, occupant may not be properly restrained.
1998 Wrangler: Power-brake booster-vacuum reservoir diaphragm can split or tear; may cause increase in engine-idle speed and loss of power brake assist.
1999 Wrangler: Instrument-panel ground-attachment screws could loosen over time, possibly affecting gauges and/or defroster.
2001 Wrangler: Some of the owner's manuals for these vehicles are missing instructions for properly attaching a child-restraint system's tether strap to the tether anchorage.
2001-02 Wrangler: Water may leak into the ignition switch, causing a short circuit and possibly a fire.
2002 Wrangler w/4.0-liter engine: Debris can accumulate in the intake and exhaust manifolds, increasing the risk of fire.
2005-06 Wrangler w/42RLE automatic transmission: Cup plug that retains park pawl anchor shaft may be improperly installed; if it changes position, vehicle may not be able to achieve "Park" position.
2006 Wrangler w/ 6-speed manual transmissions: The hydraulic clutch master cylinder linkage rod may break, causing unintentional vehicle movement, increased stopping distance, and engine stalling. Dealers will replace the clutch master cylinder linkage rod free of charge.
2006: The antilock brake system control module software may cause the rear brakes to lock up during certain braking conditions. This could result in a loss of vehicle control and cause a crash without warning. Dealers will reprogram the ABS electronic control unit.
 

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gosh jeeps in my opinion just like other suv's are just not fitting for the city
 

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You should visit the 4x4community.co.za forum. (Linked to the Jeep sub-forum :) )
Hungry on fuel. Expect to consume about 12.9l-13.5l/100km.

How was the test drive? Are you looking at the 2-door or Unlimited? Sahara or Rubicon?
 
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koeks

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You should visit the 4x4community.co.za forum. (Linked to the Jeep sub-forum :) )
Hungry on fuel. Expect to consume about 12.9l-13.5l/100km.

How was the test drive? Are you looking at the 2-door or Unlimited? Sahara or Rubicon?

thanks. the test drive was fabulous.... :D:p:);)
I'm looking at the 2-door Sahara version:)
i like i like, and yes they are Hungry on fuel, very hungry. but i used to drive a Toyota Cressida GLi-6 that was very hungry as well:)
 

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I really like the new Wranglers - if you're actually going to use one offroad, I'd say they're a good purchase. Question marks over reliability tho?
 

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I have a 2005 3.7 automatic Cherokee. I drive very calmly. I like just cruising around with the windows open as opposed to racing all over the place. It has a computer that gives average consumption.

I get about 16.5L / 100 when driving around town.
My wife gets about 18L /100 when she drives it.

On highway / open road it goes to about 14L / 100. That's with cruise control set at about 110kph.

Tyre pressure makes a HUGE difference. If it's not right the consumption can go over 20L/100 easily. When inflated according to the manual (3.3 bars) it's fine.
 
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JEEP WRANGLER

I have a 1999 wrangler 4l sport that im selling, I have just put in alarm, central locking and a new sound system. it also has new tyres and mags
 

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I really want the 4-door in diesel... :d Just to damn expensive at the moment - waiting for them to be around R150,000.

I have a 1999 wrangler 4l sport that im selling, I have just put in alarm, central locking and a new sound system. it also has new tyres and mags

You forgot your price.
 

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Xrapid... i think you are going to wait a while for R150k :D the Wranglers seem to hold their value a bit... ones that are priced at R150k are the old 2 doors, they 4 door diesels are around the R220k - R250k mark from 2007 to 2008 models...

we did a trail yesterday, the wrangler is awesome, it goes any where where most 4X4 will struggle:D
 

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I get about 16.5L / 100 when driving around town.
My wife gets about 18L /100 when she drives it.

Since posting this my Jeep's been for a service and she got a new gearbox about 6 months ago.

The fuel figure are very different with the new gearbox. Mine is the 3.7 Auto Cherokee Limited.

When I drive around town a average 14.0L / 100. My wife averages about 16L.

Open road trip last week had it down to 11.8L / 100.
 

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Xrapid... i think you are going to wait a while for R150k :D the Wranglers seem to hold their value a bit... ones that are priced at R150k are the old 2 doors, they 4 door diesels are around the R220k - R250k mark from 2007 to 2008 models...

we did a trail yesterday, the wrangler is awesome, it goes any where where most 4X4 will struggle:D

I recon I'll find one about that price in 2011 :)
 

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hahaha Waaib when my GF drives it she gets about 14L/100 in town and i get about 15-17L/100km and on open road we get about 12L-13L/100km

I'm the one with a heavy right foot it's also an Auto as well:D
 

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I recon I'll find one about that price in 2011 :)

sure, but the problem then might be that a diesel that has been used for about 3 to 4 years might give you problems, the nice thing with the 4L motor is that they are bullet proof... the petrol engine seems to be more reliable in JEEPS:D

but i also think you will get it at that price.
 
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