Jesse MacBeth sentenced

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Man who posed as military hero sentenced to 5 months in prison

Tacoma man who falsely claimed he was a decorated war hero when he took the stage at demonstrations held in opposition to the U.S.'s role in Iraq was sentenced this morning to five months in prison in U.S. District Court in Seattle.

Jesse MacBeth, 23, was also sentenced to three months in a halfway house after his release and three years of probation.

MacBeth claimed that he was an Army ranger who killed more than 200 people, many at close range, including some as they prayed in a mosque. He spoke at an anti-war rally in Tacoma and appeared in a 20-minute anti-war video that circulated widely on the Internet.

In reality, MacBeth made it through only six weeks of Army basic training and never set foot in Iraq.

Conservative bloggers exposed MacBeth in May 2006, destroying his credibility and embarrassing the Seattle company that produced the video about his exploits.

On June 7, MacBeth pleaded guilty to one count of making false statements to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. MacBeth admitted that he filed a bogus claim for VA benefits in 2005, which included a fraudulent military-discharge form.

MacBeth said on the forms that he had been in the Army for more than three years and had achieved the rank of corporal. He also claimed he had been awarded a Purple Heart and that he was discharged because he suffered from post-traumatic-stress disorder.

MacBeth spent 44 days as a private at Fort Benning, Ga., in 2003, but was released "for issues related to entry-level performance and conduct," according to court papers.

PepperSpray Productions in Seattle produced the video titled "Jesse MacBeth: An Iraq Veteran Speaks Out." In the film, MacBeth told nuanced tales of brutal killings he carried out at the behest of his commanding officers.

"They would actually feel the hot muzzle of my rifle on their forehead," he reportedly said on the video, which is no longer in circulation.

Only a few months :eek:You'd think treason would carry a heavier punishment. At least it was something.

Hopefully Scott Beauchamp author of the "Shock Troops" fabrication propagated by the posse here gets a harsher sentence.

This hero of the left surely will

Disturbed anti-war protester can't find soldier, kills civilian with axe instead

AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) - A U.S. citizen has confessed to using an axe to kill a Dutch student after failing to find a soldier to attack, his lawyer said Tuesday.
The suspect, Carlos Hartmann, 41, of Tecumseh, Mich., has confessed to the Sept. 8 killing on a train platform in the southern city of Roosendaal, defence lawyer Peter Gremmen said.

Gremmen said Hartmann wanted to punish the Netherlands for its support of the war in Iraq.

Hartmann appeared before a judge Tuesday and was ordered held for another two weeks for investigation.

"He hates soldiers, and says that the army kills people, so it would be legitimate if he were also to kill someone . . . from the American military - or from its NATO allies," Gremmen said in a telephone interview.

When he failed to find a soldier at the Roosendaal train station, "he got such a crazy, disturbed idea that he killed a civilian," Gremmen said.

Hartmann did not attempt to escape and was arrested shortly after the killing.

Dutch prosecutors confirmed that the suspect had confessed but did not identify him or his victim, in keeping with Dutch practice.

Under the Dutch legal system, Hartmann was not required to enter a plea Tuesday.

Prosecution spokeswoman Martine Pilaar said her office was taken aback by the defence lawyer's willingness to disclose details of his case.

But Gremmen said he was only confirming details published by the local newspaper BN/De Stem. The paper's source was not named, and police declined to comment.

"I was also surprised when I saw the paper; I thought, this must be coming from the investigation," the lawyer said.

Gremmen said Hartmann has lived in the Netherlands since 2002, supporting himself with English editing work for a Japanese company, which he could do by computer, and that he had no fixed address.

He said Hartmann had consented to undergo psychological testing, and was now "terribly sorry for his deed."

The victim, identified as Thijs Geers, was waiting for a train and had no connection with the suspect or the military. Online condolence registers in the Netherlands were flooded with messages of sympathy for him and his family.

BN/De Stem quoted a witness who asked to remain anonymous as describing Hartmann as striking the victim in the back of the head with the axe. It also quoted an unidentified family member from the United States as saying Hartmann has suffered from emotional problems since his early 20s.

"It's a sad story," Gremmen said. "But I'm glad he's admitted what he's done and that he's sorry for it."

At least the moonbat who shot an airman to 'celebrate" 4th of July saved everybody the trouble by commiting suicide :cool:

Shame things aren't going well for the glorious resistance heroes:o
 
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Only a few months :eek:You'd think treason would carry a heavier punishment. At least it was something.
Treason? Wasnt it fraud?
On June 7, MacBeth pleaded guilty to one count of making false statements to the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs. MacBeth admitted that he filed a bogus claim for VA benefits in 2005, which included a fraudulent military-discharge form.
 
Benedict Arnold committed treason , this chappie was a fraudster !
 
Alan's definition of treason : not supporting the armed forces 110%.

Alan's definition of pacifism : not kicking the living daylights out of everything that breathes or moves.
 
Alan's definition of treason : Creating fabrications to undermine and demonize the efforts of brave men and women who are putting their lives and putting their families through the associated problems for the sake of their country and citizens of other countries.

Alan's definition of pacifism : Refusing to accept the reality of a situation requiring sacrifice and to cover your short comings by spitting on those who do
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Note no condemnation from the posse. Chiskop even refers to the guy as a soldier. I guess this falls under the "fake but accurate" mentality championed by disgraced liberal propagandist Dan Rather and still popular on the left
The responses were framed around the comments you left in the OP.

When you start screaming blue murder over what is nothing more than a fraud case, you're hardly going to attract any sympathetic replies.

But then again, I guess from the fact that you deludedly think that chiskop called the oke a soldier that we can infer that such leaps of irrationality are common place in your thought processes. Shame, must be tough to live with, hey.

I wonder though, what comdemnation you are expecting? Maybe you expect people to claim he's been wrongfully imprisoned or something? :confused:
 
Note no condemnation from the posse. Chiskop even refers to the guy as a soldier. I guess this falls under the "fake but accurate" mentality championed by disgraced liberal propagandist Dan Rather and still popular on the left :o:o
Who did I refer to as a soldier? Certainly not this Macbeth who I'd never heard of before you brought it up. I'm concerned about your extremely broad definition of treason, and wondered if the pretend-pretend soldier that I linked to was also guilty of treason? He is certainly responsible for many more deaths.

Of course, it is waste to take the time to respond to you alan. No doubt this response will be similarly reduced to a eight word misrepresentation. :rolleyes:
 
Alan's definition of treason : not supporting the armed forces 110%.

Alan's definition of pacifism : not kicking the living daylights out of everything that breathes or moves.

ROFL. :D

Of course, he wouldn't know much about a "soldier" either because he's too chicken to sign up! Cluck cluck cluck.
:D
 
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