JHB - DA, Tshwane - EFF ?

Joburg is the economic heart of the country, and is much more important than Tshwane, I'm sorry to tell you. The EFF will NOT RUN Tshwane. The council will. Just under an EFF mayor.

I'm sure the EFF will want to run the metro they're given which means they get mayor and the majority of MMC positions. They will not consent to figurehead-hood with the DA as overseer, they'll want total control. It is the only way the DA gets one of Tshwane or JHB. I can't remember how the EFF did in the EC but I'd assume any deal would extend there. So the DA gets two and agree to hand one to the EFF. Not ideal but I'd rather they give them Tshwane rather than JHB. And no, I don't live in either city.
 
It's extremely disingenious for the DA to allow the EFF to get the mayoralty when they only garnered 11% or 12% of the vote in PTA. The mayors in both PTA and JHB has to be a DA candidate if there were to be a coalition with the EFF, IMO.

EFF are the (very) junior partners in any coalition in the DA simply because they got far fewer votes than the DA.

The ANC handed 3 of 4 municipalities to junior coalition partners in return for Beaufort West, what makes you think this won't happen? It's either this or the DA gets nothing.
 
I'm sure the EFF will want to run the metro they're given which means they get mayor and the majority of MMC positions. They will not consent to figurehead-hood with the DA as overseer, they'll want total control. It is the only way the DA gets one of Tshwane or JHB. I can't remember how the EFF did in the EC but I'd assume any deal would extend there. So the DA gets two and agree to hand one to the EFF. Not ideal but I'd rather they give them Tshwane rather than JHB. And no, I don't live in either city.

I can't see them handing total control over. That's not justified given the number of votes received.
 
And if that is the EFF's condition?
Without their agreement, council will be dysfunctional.

Then the EFF can go fck themselves. Its easy sitting in another city and saying ja the EFF should get the mayor candidate in given Metro. If the roles were changed and EFF's condition was getting the Mayoral candidate in JHB, you would have been equally upset, even more so if DA actually won the metro.
 
I can't see them handing total control over. That's not justified given the number of votes received.

As was announced last week, the DA did hand 3 municipalities to smaller parties in the WC last week. The EFF will not agree to anything less than a metro. On the other hand I doubt the ANC would consent to hand the EFF a metro but then the ANC have a lot of carrot to offer, the DA have nothing else.
 
Then the EFF can go fck themselves. Its easy sitting in another city and saying ja the EFF should get the mayor candidate in given Metro. If the roles were changed and EFF's condition was getting the Mayoral candidate in JHB, you would have been equally upset, even more so if DA actually won the metro.

I hear what you're saying, but what you propose will result in dysfunctional councils.
 
I live in Tshwane.

I have very little faith in the moral integrity of any political party and whatever happens, I doubt I will be surprised.

I am mildly curious as to what happens but as far as I am concerned, the ANC losing power is first prize, if EFF do get the Mayoral position in Tshwane it will cost them dearly and benefit the DA more.

In the long run, that will be good for us as a nation.

Also, The EFF have already shown what they can do with practically nothing, let's see what they can do if they have the backing.
 
Then the EFF can go fck themselves. Its easy sitting in another city and saying ja the EFF should get the mayor candidate in given Metro. If the roles were changed and EFF's condition was getting the Mayoral candidate in JHB, you would have been equally upset, even more so if DA actually won the metro.

I'd be perfectly fine with an EFF mayor in JHB. It just makes more sense to put the EFF mayor in PTA, since no-one really wants to govern PTA.
 
DA supporters are being short sighted here. Let the EFF rule, it'll be the death of them & the DA getting an inland metro will serve as a launch pad. They can then strengthen to the point of challenging for the province and all the metros next election round.
 
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I'd be perfectly fine with an EFF mayor in JHB. It just makes more sense to put the EFF mayor in PTA, since no-one really wants to govern PTA.

I have a better idea, the ANC and DA can negotiate, DA can give them majority in JHB and in return let the DA run Tshwane. :whistle:
 
Johannesburg - Coalition talks in the four hung metros entered a second week on Monday, with no announcements yet as to which parties had reached agreements.

United Democratic Movement leader Bantu Holomisa, who has been helping to co-ordinate the efforts of smaller parties, including the Economic Freedom Fighters, would only reveal that talks had reached a "critical stage".

The four smaller parties, which also include the United Front and Cope, have listed the resignation of President Jacob Zuma as one of their conditions for co-operation with the African National Congress, but the ruling party's national executive committee did not raise this as a possibility at its recent meeting.

ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe, on Sunday after the meeting, told journalists in Pretoria: "There was no proposal that the president step down."

The coalition talks follow after the August 3 local government elections resulted in 27 hung councils.

ANC battle for Nelson Mandela Bay

READ: How to form a coalition – tips for politicians

The EFF has scheduled a press briefing for Wednesday on coalitions, but it’s as yet unclear when the Democratic Alliance and the ANC will have their briefings on the issue.

While Ekurhuleni looks likely to be governed by the ANC - in coalition with the African Independent Congress, and with Mzwandile Masina as its mayor - a source on Monday said the DA’s deal with the EFF to govern in Tshwane was likely to stick and that Solly Msimanga would be elected mayor there later this week.

Msimanga last week addressed a "thank you" rally in Tshwane.

The City Press has reported that, in Johannesburg, the EFF and the DA have reached a co-operation agreement, while in Nelson Mandela Bay, the DA is likely to clinch a deal with the UDM and two smaller parties to get the extra four seats it needs to govern.

Nelson Mandela Bay Mayor Danny Jordaan, however, hinted over the weekend that there was still a possibility that the ANC could pull off a coalition. A DA insider in the metro said this was unlikely.

Chairperson of the DA federal council James Selfe could not be reached for comment on Monday morning, but he told The Citizen that the DA’s view that it was possible to work with the EFF still stood.

He said an announcement following the DA’s coalition talks with the EFF could be expected this week. He could, however, not divulge details.

http://www.news24.com/Elections/News/coalition-talks-enter-critical-stage-20160815

So many conflicting stories doing the rounds.
 
Then the EFF can go fck themselves. Its easy sitting in another city and saying ja the EFF should get the mayor candidate in given Metro. If the roles were changed and EFF's condition was getting the Mayoral candidate in JHB, you would have been equally upset, even more so if DA actually won the metro.

The DA didn't "win" the metro. Only a coalition can "win" the metro. For the greater good I am fine living in Tshwane under an EFF mayor - but control shouldn't be handed over to them.
 
Then give JHB to the EFF, leave Pretoria alone. DA won in Tshwane because we the people wanted them to govern, not the fcking EFF.

Again, I do not believe the DA will just go "here you go boys ... gaan mal with Pretoria".
The DA has many more votes in both metro's, so they will be keeping a close eye on how Pretoria is governed by EFF if it does go that way. If it goes badly, it will reflect worse on them than the EFF I am inclined to think, so they will have to make sure that the EFF is doing a proper job. Look, it is not ideal, but getting Pretoria and Joburg out of the hands of the ANC is more important right now in my view.
 
It's extremely disingenious for the DA to allow the EFF to get the mayoralty when they only garnered 11% or 12% of the vote in PTA. The mayors in both PTA and JHB has to be a DA candidate if there were to be a coalition with the EFF, IMO.

EFF are the (very) junior partners in any coalition in the DA simply because they got far fewer votes than the DA.


Why not, that's how Hitler took power in Germany. He never got majority... he was a swing vote and convinced them to make him Chancellor.
 
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