JHB schedule changes

[mpdjhb]

I don't think so. Reading this article makes sense to me: http://www.bdlive.co.za/national/20...-to-lightening-of-eskoms-load-shedding-burden

That is the first decent article I have seen - thank you.
From that article it is still possible to use your geyser (albeit with not much else!).
I was getting frustrated with the normal articles etc saying "a few lights and your TV" and "turn off geyser".
Way too much grey area before - (fridge, freezer, microwave, decoder, PC etc)

*IF* the article is accurate, then LL is actually very fair and reasonable.

 

[neo_]

best way to discribe it....

look at when they turn off your water, unless you are running a tap or other such you probably won't know. No harm done to anything.
You have a fragile wine glass in the sink when you open the tap (after water it back). The water comes back in bursts and bubbles until the air is out, so you could call it dirty water as it will break that wine glass as it hits with force.

The same happens with power. When schity power turns the switch back to on your, and everyone else's, premises gets dirty power.

That dirty power is the problem.
I now leave all fragile appliances(tv, washing machine....) off on the wall switch, when I remember. And yet the bastards still got my dishwasher (had forgotten to turn off wall switch). Thank goodness for insurance.

oh, I also turn the geyser trip switch off, I don't want to struggle without hot water.

Thanks for the clarification. Meh, I'm just used to unplugging everything when shedding kicks in. Very glad I don't have this smart meter business...

That is the first decent article I have seen - thank you.
From that article it is still possible to use your geyser (albeit with not much else!).
I was getting frustrated with the normal articles etc saying "a few lights and your TV" and "turn off geyser".
Way too much grey area before - (fridge, freezer, microwave, decoder, PC etc)

*IF* the article is accurate, then LL is actually very fair and reasonable.

Sure thing.

The only real thing that urks me out is that when our power goes out, so does our water, which is fed from a gas boiler on the ground floor of the building. And if the power's been out for 4 hours (which doesn't happen often here), then the water comes out the tap really dirty. Takes about 10 mins to clean out once people have been running taps.

 

[Sneeky]

There was an interesting show on DSTV last night about the UK power grid, and shortages forseen 10 to 20 years from now.
They went inside for extensive tour of how they manage the grid and there is a company that load limits on request.
They have signed up many businesses and homes and can limit the load with zero impact on the consumer.

They proved it by going out and interviewing people in the load limited areas and asked if they had notcied or been inconvenienced at all, none of them even knew it was happening.

None of this let me @#$% your electronics up by flicking the power on and off like a child either.

 

[oober]

Average geyser is 2KW. My 200l is only 3KW.
Some of the crappy town house ones can even be 1.5KW.

At an oven element of 3KW and a TV at 100W, I am still within the 4500W I quoted.

Calcs are sound.

Our geyser is a 200l and has a 4KW element in it. Heats our water within 15-20 minutes. Since the scheduled changes we have not had one day of loadshedding, even though the schedule says we have.

 

[Sneeky]

This was the show, Bang Goes the Theory : Energy

Presenters Jem Stansfield, Liz Bonnin and Maggie Philbin investigate how close Britain might get to running out of electricity.

We live in a world where the lights are always on, but will that be the case in 20 years time?

Maggie Philbin spends a day in one of Britain's most secret locations, the control room of the National Grid where she monitors our demand for electricity with supply. Here she learns almost half our generating capacity will disappear in our lifetimes.

Jem shows how and why most of our electricity now relies on gas and reveals a potential fuel of the future - liquid air.

Liz investigates renewable energy and tackles what could really offer viable solutions to our energy needs going forward.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03y65xx

 

[ellyally]

There was an interesting show on DSTV last night about the UK power grid, and shortages forseen 10 to 20 years from now.
They went inside for extensive tour of how they manage the grid and there is a company that load limits on request.
They have signed up many businesses and homes and can limit the load with zero impact on the consumer.

They proved it by going out and interviewing people in the load limited areas and asked if they had notcied or been inconvenienced at all, none of them even knew it was happening.

None of this let me @#$% your electronics up by flicking the power on and off like a child either.

this?

See how the colonists do it... no one even notices

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfwMxtdoOnM

 

[Sneeky]

this?

Yes that was it. (part of)
I actually found it to be a very interesting show. How they manage the load during certain hours.
i.e. After a sitcom like Eastenders in the evening the power shows a spike, all the pomms putting on the kettles lol. They actually cater for that.
Its worth looking at the dstv schedule, sure it will be repeated.

 

[neo_]

[...] sure it will be repeated.

This.
Hehe!

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Regarding the UK show - I can only imagine that our wonderful government would not be capable of such bliss. It's like they were designed that way.

 

[elbow]

That's hectic. Not clued up all that much on amps and volts and whatnot, but I'm guessing that 21 amps isn't a lot? Like maybe some lights, the fridge, and a few PCs?

21 amps is a lot. About 4.5 kW. I can run my whole house on that including geyser. "some lights, the fridge (etc)" will run on maybe 5 or 6A. Evenings though you want to cook so care would be needed to moderate usage.

Steve