Job oppurtunities

[alienhore]

This is a throwaway account. but need some advise please

I currently work in the professional field and my current contract is going to end. I have 2 oppurtunities available. oppurtunity A i have passed the interview but now we are negotiating on salary. oppurtunity B I still have to go through the interview.

The issue is opp A initially offered me a too low CTC which i rejected they then asked if i still want the job and the amount i am looking for. That negotiation will be this week Thursday. We also had a gentlemen agreement that I will not look for other opportunities for at least 12 months.
Opp B is closer to my long term career goals, but there is the chance of not making it through the interview stage. If i miss opp B i might loose out completely on opp A

I now have 2 options.

1) I meet with opp A on Thursday and tell them about opp B and not take opp A, or try to extend the offer. I'm not sure if this will work.
2) I just hide opp B from opp A until I know the outcome of the opp B interview, and if it means retiring after a month I can, but this might destroy any network that has been built, it is also deceitful.


I just dont know what to do. Please help

 

[SoulTax]

Gentlemen's agreement? Just like companies give promises of increases after 3 month appraisals and such. If it were me. I would push B for an interview stating that you have an offer on the table but see B as a better fit for your career aspirations.

Go to A negotiations but stall them once the final offer is given. Tell them that you need to go away and think about it. Try to give them a time frame, while having B pressed to give you that interview.

I did exactly this with my first job in my chosen career. I didn't even have experience to ride on. I had simply finished my studies in two programming fields. B phoned me on Wed to ask if I would be keen for an interview. I had finished an interview with A on the Tuesday. I told B that I had an offer on the table and needed to either take it or reject it by Friday. They pushed an interview on Friday morning and gave me the offer friday afternoon.

I think the show of good faith to B, combined with my forwardness and obviously showing that I was wanted elsewhere, made B jump. They still got me for a bargain as it was a foot in job, as far as my career was concerned. But that same tactic could help you now.

 

[Maverick Jester]

Gentlemen's agreement to not look around? Really? Some companies...

You are entitled to ensure that your career is what is best for you, not some soulless corporation. Unless you are contractually bound to this, I really don't see why you cannot look around, especially if this company isn't exactly clamoring for your services with their wage offer.

I would do my best to ace interview B. Disclose this to "opportunity A" in your meeting on Thursday.

Just my R0.02.

 

[alienhore]

Gentlemen's agreement to not look around? Really? Some companies...

You are entitled to ensure that your career is what is best for you, not some soulless corporation. Unless you are contractually bound to this, I really don't see why you cannot look around, especially if this company isn't exactly clamoring for your services with their wage offer.

I would do my best to ace interview B. Disclose this to "opportunity A" in your meeting on Thursday.

Just my R0.02.

Problem is the interview is already scheduled for 7 May..... so cant really move it earlier

 

[guest2013-1]

A company is a company. They do whatever the **** they see is best in THEIR interest, not yours (NEVER EVER yours)

So why afford them the same? You're renegotiating their offer on Thursday, so stall and ask if you could have until end o May to decide? Why the **** shoot yourself in the gonads if it's not necessary?

Even so, if you do take the job at A, and B offers you a position, you can leave almost immediately AFAIK citing you don't feel that you fit in? Or something.

Bull**** them as they bull**** us dude. Loyalty and "gentleman's agreements" isn't rewarded anymore

 

[ToxicBunny]

AcidRazor is completely correct.

You can take Offer A, and if Offer B comes along and its similar or better, take it and resign. There is no loyalty anymore from the companies side, so why should you have any loyalty to them?

 

[zippy]

This loyalty thing is abused.

If you choose to work somewhere, you should do your best. Remain loyal to the extent that you don't steal, blab company intellectually secrets etc. Reporting things like fraud is not being disloyal. In fact it requires a lot if courage and loyalty to the company to expose some crook. People confuse loyalty to the company with loyalty to some knobhead in management.

It's not being disloyal if you look for another job, because for whatever reason you don't feel this one is right for you.

Equally, the company is not disloyal if they have to make people redundant because some external factors cause demand for business to nosedive. Sure, some fool in the Exco is responsible for either not seeing the coming sh##tstorm or, for creating it themselves. But when restructuring needs to be happen, it needs to happen. It's awful being on the wrong end of it, but that's the risk we all take.

If you don't like it, too bad. That's how it is. If you feel strongly enough about it and want to change it. Well. Sign up with Cosatu or something and good luck to you. Options around the world are fast disappearing. Even in communist China , people are getting fired now.

 

[alienhore]

Thanks for the advise.

The further complication its the same company just 2 very different business units. But i think i will need to stall this until i know where i stand with option B.

 

[SaiyanZ]

Thanks for the advise.

The further complication its the same company just 2 very different business units. But i think i will need to stall this until i know where i stand with option B.

I was in this exact situation last year. The interviews for both positions were even on the same day! I let them know that I had applied for two different positions. Ended up getting an offer the next day, plus 20% more than I'd asked for. This way I knew that I'd gotten in with the department that wanted me more.