Jude Motata case dropped

No, only one of the charges was dropped.
His application for a dismissal of charged was rejected.
 
I think if the guy had eaten humble pie and been apologetic from the get-go or at the very least not exhibited the arrogant arsehole behaviour he did, I may feel even half bad for him.

But no. He chose to be a d00s of the highest order and I hope he fries for it.
 
Flanders said:
I think if the guy had eaten humble pie and been apologetic from the get-go or at the very least not exhibited the arrogant arsehole behaviour he did, I may feel even half bad for him.

But no. He chose to be a d00s of the highest order and I hope he fries for it.
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He thought his edumications would help...
 
marine1 listened to the wireless and heard motata & dropped and leaped to the unsurprising conclusion that the case had been dropped,
Judge Nkola Motata will not face a charge of driving under the influence of excessive amounts of alcohol when his case resumes in the Johannesburg Magistrate's Court in July.

The charge was dropped on Thursday because the state could not prove how drunk the high court judge was at the time of the accident in northern Johannesburg in 2007.

Alcohol was found in Motata's blood and he will still face one count of reckless and negligent driving and another of defeating the ends of justice.
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http://news.iafrica.com/sa/1761120.htm
 
Who says the legal profession don't look after themselves. Anyone who's had dealing with any of the law societies can tell you that.
 
Has anyone ever received a jail sentence for a vehicle related crime.
I mean even that woman in PMB (alleged drunk, but unproven) who killed
some singer crossing a street got a suspended sentence.
 
Larry, you know the point of this discussion. If you are connected, you chances of getting away with things are greatly increased. None of us, including the racist white bastards, that troll here, believe that white guys would never do the same thing.
 
Balstrome said:
Larry, you know the point of this discussion. If you are connected, you chances of getting away with things are greatly increased. None of us, including the racist white bastards, that troll here, believe that white guys would never do the same thing.
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If you can afford good legal representation, your chances of getting away with things are increased regardless of your skin color. If there is a loophole, a good lawyer will exploit it. There's no need for being connected to achieve that.
 
dlk001 said:
If you can afford good legal representation, your chances of getting away with things are increased regardless of your skin color. If there is a loophole, a good lawyer will exploit it. There's no need for being connected to achieve that.
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Reading about this case, it seems that no legal loop hole was used, rather external forces where involved to corrupt evidence so that the case would collapse, as in most of the other high profile ANC related cases. But then you already knew this.
 
Balstrome said:
Reading about this case, it seems that no legal loop hole was used, rather external forces where involved to corrupt evidence so that the case would collapse, as in most of the other high profile ANC related cases. But then you already knew this.
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Really? I wasn't aware of that. My bad

So, from your reading, what got corrupted through use of external forces leading to the "drunk- driving" charge laid by the state being dismissed?
 
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dlk001 said:
Really? I wasn't aware of that. My bad

So, from your reading, what got corrupted through use of external forces leading to the "drunk- driving" charge laid by the state being dismissed?
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apology accepted on behalf of balstome ;)
 
Jude Law?

hey jude, don't look so sad
take a sad song and make it better........................
 
dlk001 said:
Really? I wasn't aware of that. My bad

So, from your reading, what got corrupted through use of external forces leading to the "drunk- driving" charge laid by the state being dismissed?
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Lets see, the blood sample taken was managed in a way that allowed it to be declared invalid. If it had not been, the drunk judge would have been found guilty by the courts. Why was the sample mishandle, two possible reasons, one was the total incompetence of the police force, or secondly 'external forces" did not want the drunk judge to be found guilty.

What is known, generally by the public, the drunk judge, crashed his car into a wall, he smelt of alcohol, he talked as if he was under the influence of alcohol.
Why the hell am I even bothering to show cause here, seeing that the drunk will get off, because of his connections and inability to accept that he is in the wrong.
 
Balstrome said:
Lets see, the blood sample taken was managed in a way that allowed it to be declared invalid. If it had not been, the drunk judge would have been found guilty by the courts. Why was the sample mishandle, two possible reasons, one was the total incompetence of the police force, or secondly 'external forces" did not want the drunk judge to be found guilty.

What is known, generally by the public, the drunk judge, crashed his car into a wall, he smelt of alcohol, he talked as if he was under the influence of alcohol.
Why the hell am I even bothering to show cause here, seeing that the drunk will get off, because of his connections and inability to accept that he is in the wrong.
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I thought from your reading, police incompetence wasn't the issue but it was the external forces leading to the "drunk- driving" charge laid by the state being dismissed.

I sounds like Mishandling of the sample is not the corner stone of this ruling. From what I read and just heard on Talk 702, its the issue of correct procedure for the determination of the quantity in his blood.

The charges of drunk-driving have not been dropped. In my eyes, the Judge is guilty as hell!
 
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If it was plain, simple police incompetence, then it would occur a lot more in other cases, but this being a high profile case, I suggest that someone ordered the mishandling of the sample, because it would allow the case to be dropped. What you are suggesting is that because of the incorrect procedure, the drunk got lucky, I suggest that this is unlikely, rather that someone pulled strings.
 
Balstrome said:
If it was plain, simple police incompetence, then it would occur a lot more in other cases, but this being a high profile case, I suggest that someone ordered the mishandling of the sample, because it would allow the case to be dropped. What you are suggesting is that because of the incorrect procedure, the drunk got lucky, I suggest that this is unlikely, rather that someone pulled strings.
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Yes, because of incorrect procedure, the drunk can get lucky. Same applies to other people who break the law. Have you been watching Carte Blanche expose on illegal procedures and incompetence of our local law enforcers?

The Judge as I heard on Talk 702 today said "Tests done months after the blood was taken can be flowed"...

Seems there can be many loopholes!

* The equipment used by the SAPS for extracting blood or breath samples must have been tested and comply with the stringent standards of the South African National Accreditation System (SANAS)
* A blood sample can only be taken within two hours of arrest to be valid
* A breath alcohol test may only be administered by a registered traffic officer who has passed the operations course for the piece of equipment used and is required to carry with him/her an operator's certificate of competence or a certified copy thereof, which must be presented on demand
* The equipment used must be calibrated every six months and the traffic officer operating the equipment is required to carry the calibration certificate with him/her
 
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Whats this country coming to??

Drubk driving seems to be a petty offense if you look at the way Gibbs and now this Motata guy shrugged off the charges.:D
 
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