Just installed iOS 6.....

sand_man said:
What's sad is you coming back to a thread that has been dead for the last 6 weeks to comment about a feature that has been around since June 2010.
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He just wanted a stage for his moving to android announcement. ;)
 
bwana said:
He just wanted a stage for his moving to android announcement. ;)
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Which, btw, took me a couple of posts in another thread to actually convince him to move to Android.

Congrats Dolby, I'm sure you're going to be very happy.
 
sand_man said:
What's sad is you coming back to a thread that has been dead for the last 6 weeks to comment about a feature that has been around since June 2010.
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That feature is not around ... The minute you leave Newstand or anything with a video, it stops either downloading or buffering. In other words it doesn't multi task ...

And rather find a thread already discussing ios6 than create a new one?

bwana said:
He just wanted a stage for his moving to android announcement. ;)
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Nope ... Someon else brought it up :/

But also odd that you can't see the benefits of multitasking? Maybe it's an iFolk thing ...
 
undesign said:
Which, btw, took me a couple of posts in another thread to actually convince him to move to Android.

Congrats Dolby, I'm sure you're going to be very happy.
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Thank you. :)
Dolby said:
But also odd that you can't see the benefits of multitasking? Maybe it's an iFolk thing ...
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But I do multitasking on the iPad, have been since iOS4 iirc. Right now I'm browsing while uploading images - sounds like multitasking to me.
 
Indefinite background running
So all apps get five seconds of Background running, to clean things up, and some apps (such as Instacast) can request a ten-minute extension. There are, however, a small number of apps that genuinely need to run indefinitely in the background, and iOS allows this.

There are exactly five kinds of apps allowed to run indefinitely in the Background state in iOS 5:

Apps that play audio while in the Background state. A good example is Instacast while it’s playing a podcast.
Apps that track your location in the background. For example, you still want voice prompts from your turn-by-turn GPS navigation app, even if another app is Active.
Apps that listen for incoming voice-over-IP (VOIP) calls. If you use Skype on iOS, you can receive incoming Skype calls while the app is in the background.
Newsstand apps that are downloading new content.
Apps that receive continuous updates from an external accessory in the background.
All well-written apps in the above categories should become Suspended when they are no longer performing the task in hand. When Instacast finishes playing a podcast, it should be Suspended. There are some built-in apps that also run continuously in the background on iOS—the most-used one is probably Mail.
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http://www.macworld.com/article/1164616/how_ios_multitasking_really_works.html
 
bwana said:
But I do multitasking on the iPad, have been since iOS4 iirc. Right now I'm browsing while uploading images - sounds like multitasking to me.
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Yeah, Photobucket is another app that supports multitasking.
 
bwana said:
Thank you. :)
But I do multitasking on the iPad, have been since iOS4 iirc. Right now I'm browsing while uploading images - sounds like multitasking to me.
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How about download a magazine from Newstand and browse?
Or let a video buffer while playing Angry Birds?
 
http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#technotes/tn2280/_index.html

Delivering Your Content

How is the push notification that initiates the Newsstand background download different from other push notifications? Will I have to change or modify my backend infrastructure?
The notification that initiates the Newsstand background download is the same as any other push notification, with two exceptions. The first difference is the payload — your Newsstand notification should include the content-available property (with a value of 1) in the JSON payload. Second, your app may only initiate a background download once every 24 hours. iOS will ignore notifications that try to initiate a background download more than once in a 24 hour period.

Can I initiate a background download with a push notification in a non-Newsstand app?
No, this feature is only for Newsstand apps.

Is my Newsstand app required to use Newsstand Kit's background downloading feature?
If you're delivering an issue to a user as part of a subscription, you must deliver it via background download.

In general, users will expect Newsstand apps to have content downloaded in the background, ready and available for offline viewing. If a user hasn't purchased a subscription for new issues, you may use Newsstand Kit's background downloading feature to deliver other content. Keep in mind that your Newsstand app should not deliver or manage content in a way that ends up consuming large amounts available storage space on a user's device.

Can users disable background downloading?
Yes, users can disable Newsstand's push notification-initiated background downloading on a per-app basis in Settings. You can determine whether background downloading has been disabled for your app by looking for UIRemoteNotificationTypeNewsstandContentAvailability in the set of enabled types returned by UIApplication's enabledRemoteNotificationTypes property.

Once my app has received the notification, can I initiate the background download from a thread other than the main thread?
In iOS 5.0, you should initiate the background download from the main thread.

Should I package my issue for background download into one large file, or download each asset separately?
Packaging your issue assets into one compressed file is best for system performance, and it lets you determine the total download time for your issue.

Since your app has to be woken up and notified whenever a download finishes, downloading each issue asset individually is not the best approach for system performance. And, when you download each asset individually, it's impossible to calculate the total download time for your issue.

If you cannot deliver your issue in a single compressed file, then you should group your assets into sets of downloads that make sense for your app. For example, you might group the assets that are needed to show the first page of your issue into a single download.

The content of my publication needs to be updated throughout the day. Can I initiate a Newsstand background download more than once in a 24-hour period?
Allowing multiple background downloads for multiple apps would drain system resources, so Newsstand apps are limited to one background download initiated by push notification each day. If you send additional notifications to a device that attempt to initiate a background download, those notifications will be delivered to the device but ignored by Newsstand Kit.

If you want your Newsstand app to deliver breaking news, consider sending an issue via background download and downloading a small amount of additional, up-to-the-minute content when the user launches your app.
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Sandman - I'm telling you noe that it not download in the background.

Once you click 'download' you put the iPad away for 15-20 minutes and go make coffee .... Preferably turn the auto lock off too. Alternatively, simply watch the screen and the download bar. Whatever you do though DON'T LEAVE THE APP because downloading stops.

Newstand has been an issue since inception and never fixed. I'm hoping that iOS 6 Apple decide to either allow it to download in the background - or do the bugs. Biggest waste of money was buying 1 year magazine subscriptions through it ...
 
undesign said:
PS Dolby, I don't take all this very serious, hope you don't either :)
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Nah ... I don't ;)

I started to get PM last night just before I to bed and when I woke - it was in the same place as I left off. It's just VERY irritating and I don't feel that some of the others need to justify the reason for it doing it? Just odd
 
Dolby said:
Sandman - I'm telling you noe that it not download in the background.
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I don't use Newstand so I'll take your word for it.

All I'm eluding to is information indicating that the developer needs to code accordingly to utilize the background downloading functionality supported by the Newstand app.
 
Dolby said:
How about download a magazine from Newstand and browse?
Or let a video buffer while playing Angry Birds?
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Dolby, your complaints about a newsstand magazine not downloading properly or in the background, should be directed to the author / developer.

As I mentioned to you before I have newsstand apps that download issues in the background, and I get a notification popup when the issue is ready to read (all the while I'm using the iPad for other things)

Btw I never had to manually initiate a download of a issue, it's happens automatically.
 
Isn't Newstand Apple themselves?
Or do you mean the indivudal magazines within?

So like Popular Mechanics wouldn't - but National Geographic would (for example)?
 
Dolby said:
Isn't Newstand Apple themselves?
Or do you mean the indivudal magazines within?

So like Popular Mechanics wouldn't - but National Geographic would (for example)?
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The Newsstand APIs are Apple provided; the individual magazines are not.

Hence if you have a problem with a newsstand magazine, you must contact the relevant developer / publisher as they most likely did not implement the APIs correctly (incl. background downloads) or have buggy code or both. If there was a problem with the APIs then all magazines would have this problem.

Btw if you read the reviews prior to subscription you'll soon find which apps have problems or not.
 
Installing iOS 6 Beta 4 now - Beta 3 I have no issues with... running smoothly.
Just to add, I have the S III and the only thing cool about it is the large screen.
 
MongooseMan said:
Dunno about Turn by turn, but normal directions are working fine now on my iPad 2 (since beta 4).
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I have an iPhone 4 and I read somewhere that turn by turn in iOS 6 will only work on a iPhone 4S, iPad 2 and in the new iPad.

So I was hoping that things might have changed since beta 4.....
 
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