Keyless car remote security concern

Prof.Merlin said:
Yeah sorry, Laptop's were stolen out of the boot.

Thing that annoys me, is yes the insurance says its neglegence. But you pay a higher premium on laptops for all risk insurance, it gets stolen and insurance does not pay out.
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I'm not sure the boot attack always involves a remote blocker since it happened to me in fordsburg last year and I saw/heard my car doors locking when I walked away from it and everything was closed/locked,yet when I came back something was missing from the boot.This was on a 3 series and I've heard it happening to several other people in that area,they did not have access to the front of my car as i had money in there which was not taken so it seems they are somehow getting into locked boots of certain cars easily.
 
My remote unlocks the car only when I am less than a metre away. The car will not start unless the remote is in the car. I don't see how anyone can interfere with this type of system.
 
If they have a fake remote?

They can also open the car within 1 metre and start the car
 
Just a warning. Stealing your car is the least you should be worried about. Some cars can be remotely (bluetooth range) switched on and off. (Or apply breaks or steering etc).
 
Legosa said:
Read this article. Codes were cracked 6 years ago, they have the basic code of each manufacturer, get your unique code when you lock your car and then it takes only a few seconds to open your car. Amazing.

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2007/08/researchers-cra/

Send this to your insurer, say you want your money as you are sure you locked your car.
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yeah kinda old news aka remote cloning, just need a device to listen and record the signal, then play it back and viola!
 
Part of the reason I've gone back to a very basic car... nobody wants to steal it, and there is none of the technology that can be messed with whilst driving.
 
now if they ad say like rfid into the remote, that might work better?
 
ToxicBunny said:
Part of the reason I've gone back to a very basic car... nobody wants to steal it, and there is none of the technology that can be messed with whilst driving.
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You could have taken a top of the range Opel as well. Nobody wants to steal them.

(Yes, I drive one)
 
in case of the jamming, physically grab the handle and make sure the door is locked. in case of the signal copying...ummmm....large pit bull (with window partly open of course) :)
 
RE the hacking of the keyless codes: that is a big clusterf$#k as there is no quick fix but insurance will pay if the vehicle is stolen as long as you have all the keys still in your posession.

WRT the remote jamming, this is where folding mirrors become priceless. When I lock my car I can hear the mirror motors folding the mirrors confirming the car just locked and even as I walk away with my back turned. Also useful when checking on car across the street or across a mall parking area as the mirrors confirm all is well.
 
So something I just realised. My vodacom debit order just went off my account, which happened to be double the amount it usually is. So I login to the vodacom site and I realise that one of my spare phones was in the laptop bag when it got stolen.

One of the menu's on the vodacom site is 'last 10 mobile numbers dialed'. So I click on it, and there was a number that was dialed 10 times. I work for a credit bureau, linking the telephone number that was dialed to the IDNumber, giving a lot more information to all of this.

Now question is, what do I do with this information. Giving it to the cops would probably be useless :/
 
The device only seems to work on some vehicles.
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No mention of which makes/models are known to be vulnerable, and yet the criminals obviously know this so why keep it a secret? The only reason I can think of, is concern that some share prices might plummet whilst other share prices do not.

I would prefer to know if the car I am driving is known to be vulnerable, what I would do with that knowledge debatable.
 
*bump*

“This is really frustrating because clearly they’ve figured out something that looks really simple and whatever it is they’re doing, it takes just seconds to do,” Stickley said.
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It's not exactly a surprise that criminals involved in the chop shop business would have an insight into the inner workings of the vehicles they are stealing and taking apart.

This "hack" probably involves exploiting a weakness in the way that some of the vehicle's electrical subsystems have been designed and integrated with one another.

For example, if the wiring associated with the side mirror servo control circuits, can be accessed by removing the side mirror covers, and those circuits are not completely isolated from other subsystems like the central locking and alarm systems, it is likely that the thieves would be able to short out or fool an inaccessible subsystem by exploiting the more accessible subsystem.
 
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